埃德蒙顿华人社区-Edmonton China

 找回密码
 注册
查看: 4249|回复: 11

请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

[复制链接]
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2011-10-3 10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗?从老云的帖子里面看时这样的,但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢?5 Z% }4 u3 w$ W* Z
1 l2 m+ l# @: G7 s3 m: s
另外,有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么?肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧?
% Z3 m/ z9 D' [. X' x4 b3 @3 L, N& x! F
google上找了半天无解,所以上来请教。
鲜花(541) 鸡蛋(13)
发表于 2011-10-3 10:06 | 显示全部楼层
I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.  h" n8 C' G3 z. V
; j2 E8 {: S) G# P( B0 m
/ T( {( q5 t' A
Ha Ling Peak
5 L0 G2 h/ _7 x- J9 y# A9 F& c; A
                                                               
2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta( Q6 m: K6 v" G$ {, P. B
                                                        Latitude 51; 03; 30 Longitude 115; 24; 00, Topo map 82O/03/ n/ I1 Y6 s1 s3 m5 n6 q' T3 [- @
                                                       
# D0 Z+ T. b# q7 t0 N                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                  H( o1 V( P3 {. b5 {; R- V
                                        9 v$ |& P. R9 X/ ]' ]
                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; 2 X. Y2 T- q$ t" h- ]# ^
                                        ! l5 U6 B0 t! P1 N6 J2 y8 m/ i
                                       
& C* Q) |+ z, S, F( w' q
                               
                                       
Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates$ V$ _  j8 \3 d) `
                                                               
More photos
                               
                                                                                  6 F: L0 S- D+ ^) R7 _* k4 P4 \# j( t
                                                Other Information* R& K7 g/ F3 F1 l! l  K- X$ k6 V
                                       
                                                                                                Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore
/ d- Z- T2 p& ~) G4 ?  G/ a                                       
8 ~% r9 w+ w) T' k                                                                        Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=].
2 m. n$ W- n1 {- IThis mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year.* @  B& b6 t$ D" D4 d
4 y. N7 A4 a) B* B+ g) n+ I, w: J
However this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10.$ x( Y2 b8 v% ~7 ~, K* M4 G) _' ~
6 y7 r  z! S$ L2 h: s' _( O
Both stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be?
1 j% n, \) t; k' V6 I
4 e' \& I! [% b; f3 B0 U: p[/url]
[url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                                ! Z' f5 n4 V" r# l; }
Scrambling Routes                                       
An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2011-10-3 10:14 编辑
5 I' f% ?; q  e& [
9 d2 M2 `6 `' i; C. h: m* ~: g1 S$ @1 A! ]谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
鲜花(541) 鸡蛋(13)
发表于 2011-10-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
It is said to be the best trail in Canada.
鲜花(173) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2011-10-3 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kingsnake 于 2011-10-3 11:32 编辑
+ y, L) ^1 Y, v0 _, {9 R( P" v: u8 O+ t8 }" z# e
這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
- X) v+ w8 @1 v& g9 W+ _之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
0 d6 U+ K( {5 v/ E; I4 ]之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.6 K0 p1 U% x4 r# {5 `
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29
$ d5 Z* H! S3 b" T& |) p2 h5 Q

5 C; d$ `, P! |& k除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外,还有其他来源吗?% K+ z2 G, I+ V4 `3 T
那么,Ha ling 姓林名海?
; ~- ]. p( D# m# E6 K7 A9 a& _- u中文翻译成叫林海峰,海林峰,哈灵峰?3 b& M. B1 }4 q/ U% Q: x, l9 [* D

: H$ b5 _% V! g* `" n另外广东话把lin读成ling,hai读成ha?8 u2 o5 Y3 h& B- A* h& F

& b, }; Y! w. O; N; M8 p2 _/ `7 C) F: i多谢!
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
本帖最后由 放风儿 于 2011-10-3 11:42 编辑
2 [$ ]( J2 `) U3 w% {
谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
& _* V' u5 k, W  X1 }billzhao 发表于 2011-10-3 11:09

- V: M% |9 X6 v/ M1 s  N; b实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak,但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi,所以知道此山不算难。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
凌海吗?
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。
  y( _4 q# T$ W* |  b9 L, e放风儿 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39

  q9 ^6 D) Y- e" p& h
' B1 w3 J" F* \, k% G6 m8 P入门级更好了,
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
鲜花(754) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2011-10-3 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!
/ Y9 w, N5 a. {, {, @/ Y. {' a2 J8 ^& V+ [9 e4 c
他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。- P9 I! a" D4 q% Z9 y

+ K6 T' K9 _7 L, A! A9 wHa Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的,还有海莲峰的,这就差得比较远。我不会广东话,所以只好猜测这个Ha,其实是姓“夏”,Ling,可能就是“岭”,或者“灵”“陵”“翎”,这个就无从判断了。
! _3 F' j$ d  J" n- J# Q) ?- ^7 o
; F+ V! o+ M" d4 E3 f4 D  P如果一定要翻,我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”,听着比较顺口。, X  q- \# ^1 `8 Y1 \* [1 d  V$ X

) z  K, ]! Z; ?3 ?你这个问题,或者马健威会有标准答案吧!呵呵。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-4 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!
& h7 W5 C  y, M; ?$ n
/ s3 U* ~- h( R/ O他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。
+ R) L0 I9 ~( K; l7 A: J5 D! `; Y4 l, E! i
Ha Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 .... [/ E! D; }  F) I/ I8 n
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22
1 O* _, _+ ]4 H4 ~. c
; v" z& i& ~6 V
謝謝,有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了,只是好奇而已。
- H( F; }0 G+ |& @9 `: J
: c, B9 u8 Z1 M6 b在找到真名之前,先叫他夏靈吧。
您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 注册

本版积分规则

联系我们|小黑屋|手机版|Archiver|埃德蒙顿中文网

GMT-7, 2026-10-16 22:14 , Processed in 0.455423 second(s), 18 queries , Gzip On, APC On.

Powered by Discuz! X3.4

Copyright © 2001-2021, Tencent Cloud.

快速回复 返回顶部 返回列表