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why it's swine, why not pig?

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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
发表于 2009-4-29 11:56 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean pig.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-29 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
swine    n.3 _% |, a$ W1 H3 e: B
1 : any of various stout-bodied short-legged omnivorous artiodactyl mammals (family Suidae) with a thick bristly skin and a long flexible snout especially : a domesticated one descended from the wild boar
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swine fever  2 t2 P1 P. Y- j* D3 Q
1 : HOG CHOLERA
0 H! U! \% W: h3 W2 : an acute highly contagious usually fatal disease of swine that is caused by a double-stranded DNA virus (species African swine fever virus of the genus Asfivirus, family Asfarviridae), that resembles but is more severe than hog cholera, and that is indigenous to Africa
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The reason to use swine may be that it is more formal a word than pig.
鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-29 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
got u, tks a lot.
鲜花(77) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
Swine Flu but not Pig Flu.
鲜花(5) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 21:41 | 显示全部楼层
pig, hog, swine 都含“猪”的意思。4 i) [( ], N! _0 A& L
pig 是常用词, 指“猪”、“小猪”、“猪肉”, 如: roast pig 烤猪肉。
% [% F$ {" Z( K/ t4 H" q. Yhog 指“阉过供食用的公猪”, 尤指“重量超过一百二十磅的阉过的供食用的公猪”, 如: raise hogs 养猪。
, r/ O! Z# a' W2 k& N, hswine 是文学用语, 指“猪”, 有时借喻“讨厌的人”, 如: You swine! 你这个猪猡!
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鲜花(20) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 08:29 | 显示全部楼层
Great! Thank you !
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发表于 2009-4-30 09:51 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 兰颜知己 于 2009-4-29 12:56 发表 ( `3 Z* c8 l; y  q+ }8 j. O
With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。" z$ F+ Y* @5 U3 a
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean  ...
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顺带说一句啊,要想说对牛谈琴的意思不要用这个casting pearls before swine,至少我知在加拿大他们一般不这么说。有时候这些词典真是害人。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:41 | 显示全部楼层
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
对牛弹琴  7 W/ L$ F1 s; h
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to play the lute to a cow :  offering a treat to a unappreciative audience
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to cast pearls before swine
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caviar to the general# j" y3 Z' h7 x7 {$ U

7 Z  Z0 y+ i. L8 Vto preach to deaf ears
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to talk over sb's head
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1 D  w- F, z- U6 J: Q: U3 P* r/ ?The whistle jigs to a milestone.4 a% i0 |2 a& U. e

% c: L5 j7 [2 n( `# IWith this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine.9 G7 K) Y7 K* q1 W, F# P" b$ b
面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。  H+ c* ~$ z0 B: W, ^* t* P$ k; f
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She read them Shakespeare, but it was casting pearls before swine.
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对牛弹琴
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% D: E; P: w+ Bplay the lute to a cow; preach to deaf ears
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, p% n! c: p' p4 ?/ oTheir hints about his behaviour were water off a duck's back.- I" Q7 ]3 E& L; O
他们示意他举止不当, 如同对牛弹琴.- j9 f, Y  s# a2 f2 ?. ^0 R
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[ 本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 10:49 编辑 ]
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:59 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 11:41 发表 ' V8 e4 J+ L- s+ S
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
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我找了个老外确认了一下,他们好像完全不知有这个说法。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 12:56 | 显示全部楼层
可能# d3 w. g9 n( y7 r
可能这种说法太书面语了,也可能out of date了。( ?* K6 _! r$ D' f1 R9 M
也有可能外国人不爱学习,学问高的不多。! o# E! l/ a: ]3 a& D
还有可能是人们的知识水平参差不齐,你问的那几个人在正态分布的尾端。- A, q/ x7 {' y! g, F
不管怎么说,既然字典上有了,就是有这种说法,而且是相当的人知道这种说法,否则就不会遍到字典上去了
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