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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.# _* o4 X' q- {7 Q7 K

9 Y6 n5 o+ O: o8 KTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! o" C7 N6 Q+ @

' K* `) ?' O" M5 Y% @"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " o! z" Q* c1 }( ]! B) x, _$ @0 l

0 h: |$ {7 w" N3 v1 wNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.$ v: Y/ ~( Z' W6 c: \+ i
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.! e4 C7 l7 @) N9 E2 F0 X) q

, U" l; l8 H- b6 C"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 3 k& N2 a0 r4 h2 `" k' N

4 c6 ^) k$ ?) ]TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.3 M3 I  J: y2 @5 Y8 X

" B$ G# Y( `  q0 C$ Z" P% {Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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. U$ b6 T" _1 d# d; [* RTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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# W  W% u- l  A1 |8 f  u% M6 R[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。7 I' K- f1 m  g4 f# ?
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 8 X" z/ A" h/ q- w- d" _2 d0 K% {) h
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

, h! Y' _# `- e: s很多人都回学校深造去了
" P7 O& B- m1 }4 X8 q嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta& @! P- Y! A, @, ~6 k+ `5 x) N0 ~
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
- }0 W, b) _  U+ w6 `boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ Q$ n. H! f) P: Z
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
6 C* X" G. T0 [4 {0 sfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
- O" ?# Y& T# A: I/ Fthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and  D6 p1 J. Y  h6 ^9 l+ }
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
, C  [2 _* i7 H9 G' ]* {' U5 |pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
) m6 @" E% l" }precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
! r/ u/ _9 {- U% `, hto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
: H& }" Z; D7 U2 |' Tprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this/ m8 v1 p' }2 i7 m% D5 U6 W
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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30,000 new households will form in the province during# N8 e6 s' ?7 W0 K! e5 S1 z
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.) j4 m9 M0 W8 L  A1 L
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s% G8 A* U& f0 g8 D+ o5 V
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
2 b4 i: X, u- C( J! j9 n( h" mduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
, g. P5 d9 d$ D6 Phas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new% Y' h& A4 Y0 ^; E% e! R1 G) U
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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8 Y, O* n: ^9 \3 R4 h& o) F6 hsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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( f5 `) ~! I- \% W, a- Aexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
# k; {" I- _# v4 ?  D' m. ?1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
1 ^/ l- I3 @: m$ jsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive! C+ V: m( T/ |! }
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
" T& B7 P- B( ?) ^two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in4 Q/ k* [' l9 i6 H* H7 F
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the8 V. W( E: p) `. M
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s2 O* C) x4 q8 u- o; b
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories9 ^9 N. R4 W% W" O
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.! N7 |! F& s9 _: B% s* k
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
. \/ S, j8 [2 h) E: K' p$ ?+ Jboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
3 T* P& P% [( w1 ?7 O+ o1 _# Q1 WAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
5 O) a- M$ F( z- _/ h7 yhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
9 q' C8 o. n9 [; P1 drelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
8 D6 f$ m/ A: J; b& ]" kprices substantially eroded affordability and, even2 }" Z1 A# R$ R5 Y+ m! v$ k
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
# _5 b) {( s5 H7 W0 O) Don average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.$ C  x: |* Y0 w3 k
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average: h; {& L! \5 f$ q5 ~
resale price in February is evidence that past prices+ J1 S& p1 ?- `) R
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
: a/ Q. B, N# C9 D6 y. O/ o" ahomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
* g) u: r* T) m% w* A2 hdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
2 g5 I$ q" G- FAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%! m, {4 s; D1 w' L$ b$ T1 q
leg down over 2009.( C8 J3 S# V2 [& p& Z" [9 L1 K

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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