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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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, @7 k  n* K+ G1 c& mTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ( k  D8 H! }6 o6 @  z

2 M; r  k, n+ i; T( U3 G"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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% S, V0 r0 s  I. b! INow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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( Z- }' n" I( ^$ X" w# ?4 Y: U6 hTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.& D) C; e, G: _1 ?8 g/ v

& y% h+ u3 n& z/ N"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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0 W) c% p1 J/ N3 f1 v3 @[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。1 z- {9 Q9 J1 b! j* o3 n) _, i! p
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 2 l  l; q8 j4 ~5 `' A  y
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta% Z. P+ J# g* v& R/ H. c# o% p
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
3 l! F6 ]  G& W* s& ?boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
! {  O- o/ h- c6 M2 G, E; ?/ vare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to2 J: P% I& _9 A. Y4 ?
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
" W, E. L* ?' f/ D# \( |formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
3 n$ ~& f2 ^+ j& R# q; afrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
( U: i- Z6 y# ?* A, f/ t9 _the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
( m+ _8 z( z; E0 C. I( X- jmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
. H( }1 c3 Q8 cpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
9 {, ^! K4 L- D' t0 gprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined- c) Z( {3 k7 U' [; o/ A
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
1 Y2 X, z8 D4 oprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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30,000 new households will form in the province during
' \! A, m4 M: ^9 o% M2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
$ ~' r* J6 e- Y! M/ r- d+ bEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
( E- R3 H' C4 E1 Ohomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new8 T7 G/ p' |1 G8 u6 A
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals. W" s8 \1 X! H) _2 z
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging- G* [- e" |8 A2 O3 h0 u- x
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories" |6 j: m1 f2 ?, R$ F
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
8 j, C. \* W0 O  O2 rexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of; V' l1 v' E/ d' p- D' H) o
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
5 }# E) q) V  \" |. ~# [6 Bsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
  a1 I& i2 E3 u4 i% ~- y+ ubuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
) \( P: H: \; V- P8 xtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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" r, a: [* w5 f. U- t/ Z  zunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest8 U, j4 T; m2 T$ `
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
. F* x, X4 r. i' P( a- jresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled: @9 J' u/ N; m
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
' K6 }: H; M# i% r* ~The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
. U) ], C3 f6 n. s2 O7 ?% _boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
# _8 A) e2 f: x' M, p: DAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan- E; b' O+ Q/ L4 V
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even, s! ^9 T! O& N9 Z' V, J) n
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
: j5 V  |/ a5 `9 s- j  @on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
5 j( W5 t1 l; w( p4 IThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
! Q! Q, a8 ]; P) D6 P# Sresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’  ^7 c$ g1 ^) b0 w9 D
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,8 }- p- k8 A1 K6 J! L- k
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%2 T" t& `5 l# k
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
( A" \( S' O! d0 t" VAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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