I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache! H( q5 q- i/ o; g+ ~1 ?
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Calm down everyone please. " a! \$ v- g( W/ I& c5 i+ m , Q$ N) H0 N) q% e# d2 M( a不存在 can mean two different things: ( f! L( ~% l8 n: p 7 T7 ?+ ]. e( `, T. k2 t" v1 S1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. 8 I, W$ B" B! o" t( v6 M; P1 B- p5 `+ W2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 ) z0 S, s, |" l" M# {, A 3 v+ c! s' p/ MI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist7 ]- i' L1 D4 m# L: t1 }7 [6 s+ [4 z
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表 m9 p1 m. j$ F7 `# r% L; j& ^- P
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache : \7 f, _. q- k& l4 V5 A) [% q' s* p$ }% u( a
Calm down everyone please. & q5 l+ Q( _) t- @2 o; y9 O4 C4 `" v
不存在 can mean two different things: ! p( N" q ]# x% D& {2 d# X2 f0 S1 A/ Z: [1 R, k
1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.! z8 W& r- ?9 g% u* h4 L0 T7 T
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头/ g+ r4 i/ T8 y: [, V3 U) U; v
$ |% U7 A8 b5 r! Y+ PI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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1 m5 `+ m' j% ^( l: @小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
原帖由 ︶ㄣ|._紸禵麯゛ 于 2006-6-8 13:19 发表6 r4 M7 q7 f3 R6 R9 U. R) C' U* B/ x
balubalu,别人跟大家分享自己的宗教信仰关你屁事啊!" j( ^3 @' O. B# i
你不赞成你就自己去信你自己那个什么狗屎balu教。, e! B4 _6 {4 l
你妈的。。。自己滚回老家去吃屎。乱七八糟吐一堆屎。1 h/ c! P0 W; X3 P; f/ v+ m* ]
别人的意见不需要你来评价,你是什么?你以为你是 ...
# m4 S# ~. A" ~# f3 O4 I+ I $ Y& m6 m9 ^6 O4 }& y: sDid your GOD ask you to curse people this way? & s6 x. h/ p% V/ W# o# P* ~If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表 3 C9 k% b. W2 {4 Z) E) ^1 ?& N l - e b1 [8 O, X( M- ~3 X) N T% x$ Q( _* ] Z: _2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! * K8 z' X3 B7 j8 u6 Q* [$ L+ Q7 q- l B5 G! h& X! h5 o
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) 2 Q; w M* R' ]# e8 M* p! Y' h' _
Maybe we should stop argument. 8 h" f( k% ~; f
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My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion ' b, d2 f( U6 B# x5 A/ C' o, Z: |2 T; g( E( }
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