說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
* P& [" I+ Z2 ?# H: A9 h7 n5 j' K9 ^学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
3 k/ H# W- E; l* A! C# o楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 4 o" z3 P( ?: _
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 ( g# ^' g. o9 T6 y7 ~2 N

4 N" |4 N) e+ Y$ S看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE , S B c* @9 \; o: o	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE ; D* p+ S9 z8 b l
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport# d1 ~+ n3 ?& f! w4 z6 F6 Z	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 7 X. n8 M8 z: P5 }
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE* f2 D: N. K# N, ?( S. W	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX* d: ^2 T& C) T- H9 L4 D: u) ^
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR53 I+ @3 H9 X3 X0 Q	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR56 F7 W. L; l3 }; A$ J
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE $ r1 B8 I* r ]4 ~4 D7 Y	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE. l) V2 ]! K; _) c( @; R8 C$ J7 k1 F
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 2 T v/ L. Z2 H* c1 t/ s	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 9 Y; w6 { W4 y$ u% o V; h, N% a
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid. p+ M) d+ A8 E [/ v	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 6 o, \: n# P% W
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited7 \% L s2 ^) ^, G' R/ `% q	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 " i' R- H: g$ n' \
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE. q0 k& ~7 c( [+ ]	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE: v- q3 R; E. K2 u# n
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE6 L0 V% V8 _1 c6 b	• 1996 Toyota T-100 3 o, E) R& B7 l+ A0 H' N1 f. m- ^
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE , X0 A: ? W# L. K9 X& p	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST0 d4 r j+ C8 B0 E9 [; S
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 8 ^" D1 }8 @! F3 x" o, q6 Z	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited1 O" A7 u: Y! `
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 ]. B3 X- D# t: V' N	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX " Y9 w( Y. i A3 B; e" a
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 4 \|. Q3 P% h6 p7 \|& G	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 . s% }3 T8 ^- {" J- U4 W0 S
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE% a% S4 i/ w' N3 X6 r" ?4 f	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ( d: G( Y( a( V- E6 \|, k, q
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * n3 @2 p/ e. k- M0 C8 F	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX ) G) o6 O! ?0 R1 s" Q% q6 f
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 6 W# q; V) @8 b/ Q	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT) j# f6 _5 ^5 `# o2 q1 B
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS $ @" \|, y& ^* i( p: D% B- D	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma & m! \& W+ t0 V
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL% o' K# e1 i3 \|9 i; k, h3 J	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner / {+ p& D, L. \|* w
• 2006 Toyota Prius 0 q5 f8 ~: T1 m# f+ p	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX ' I( ?% X$ P# I% x: n) X
• 2006 Toyota Camry ' V) T! _" E% J( L	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 0 o) f. _' O4 J9 ~; q0 p
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring$ R- ?5 Z0 r/ \4 {* x) u	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE 5 {" W& J* u6 I: I
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma & q* c% E! t6 U! `" z	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE5 @' R0 p, o+ \
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE0 [4 s- L7 K/ N: _: G	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton + g6 U' H k0 Q6 j$ X% t+ z
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited) G3 p* B4 A1 \|7 ]# P+ A& p" h1 J	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5. }* G6 [9 P; H& F% h1 i' H
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner # Z( I1 g) w* x2 i* S	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 & r( k" X- w% N2 c
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR51 T0 l" w6 v1 G' K% ~/ h4 U) D# ]	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX . H9 @! M6 A; w- k
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S$ ^7 t. p! l0 p# E m4 k& r	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX : ^! L+ o0 U( H
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited " G2 k& n6 t0 X& Q5 `$ u6 H. h$ @" U	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5, F; j- D2 Y& s. j2 O
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE v! ?: i: z \|# A" {/ A	• 1995 Toyota Tercel % c$ k3 h0 s4 C/ [3 z0 I: v8 c
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 4 y+ x& u- \|( b) S" d* ~	• 1995 Toyota Corolla # r) J) ]% {: d: M0 V( E% R5 q
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 ]$ k& p: H9 B) i' B$ M	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX& n; {* N: M7 H% N+ T6 k
• 2005 Toyota Tundra . L A8 Y1 x1 q	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE ' ~, ?6 C* }# B# G
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS! f+ t% T# K4 Q	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX % J# o/ x% j0 q0 a4 ^! @
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR58 K! y4 l- K" [" T1 K	• 1995 Toyota T-100 # C, ?! x4 o" n* Z
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited . {. {+ h+ O+ w4 r' }$ g	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma % F% U( N- e& m$ {
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL, a0 j. E* S {; E$ [	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE2 T7 g7 O7 y: v- i) K9 T
• 2005 Toyota Camry % M7 c) `0 H I3 j6 P( @8 `$ n5 ^	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) E. \|+ ?2 R; ?5 ~; n, X. p5 s
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring/ T% D) @6 K/ ^. ], _1 ~0 G	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX C2 D0 z& N# x) d
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE7 V, r# s* F( L1 i- O; D* T	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX + ]' ?% E) l. G( t
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE6 z! n* n! Z9 F$ @ a: X' v	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 5 y" Y2 b! A* ]* F" ~ u2 p- D7 g
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited3 g, K; [3 U+ ~8 Z! U' _4 h	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5+ m0 n$ R) \|1 d2 P8 N2 j
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ! C1 K L4 k) c( O# c	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 0 [' l v- {$ z* O
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE + \|" [$ K% [- N6 `* S3 W
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE - y& w5 f. @3 Q- A5 T$ u6 r9 D	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE0 v* m( Z% e; p, ^. h5 Q, \| U7 `
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited" K. y: Y' }# H U) N) I* F# r7 e	• 1994 Toyota T-100 K5 `! l3 a& d+ v6 ^* v
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5$ B: D( N/ v3 S! T' s6 f- z6 C	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 # [+ Z% [, u+ ~7 H/ G9 e, [
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 8 H# r$ q8 E G( M5 F& G	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE" x3 Q( i6 p! L( R* h+ a) G
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 9 s( W0 D- t9 k	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX5 h+ _& Q# Y' V6 k5 M' M D
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS- P' L1 v/ R8 j1 l4 }4 V2 g	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5* g) ^3 y5 ^% T9 s( m- J* a, D
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE5 z" d0 k8 z( j' y/ X, X	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE% p! e: f- \. o% d
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE: c$ n* S/ m7 A	• 1994 Toyota Corolla . L$ P* k3 x) H0 c
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited( s* k5 h/ R, S' d/ n9 q' g. N	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 8 b5 t8 i, ~/ d$ O
• 2005 Toyota Highlander ! n+ O0 C& S# F2 G0 o	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE # n* t9 E5 V3 \|; }, D0 ]
• 2005 Toyota Prius + B4 u+ d5 Z# M& \|	• 1993 Toyota Corolla . O& S/ v: W$ B# n8 f& z4 t' l: D
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE1 T% U% d1 G+ W) ?( c- O `	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton , {# H+ F- r* N5 S, e
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE 7 J5 w3 E) R0 K6 i	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : a# ^9 b' B2 C4 \|) y
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited; l* m p& `2 g! e i: Q# V8 j% I	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX, ~. a7 _8 M' y# r: G9 u& e
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR58 _ Z: G2 b1 ]; }$ m) f	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX. J8 s/ ^. W6 t5 B* H/ S2 I) }( X$ z
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 3 U1 s: @+ {6 l9 i	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX8 N9 d7 q( M7 ~0 I
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE + `# Z( h0 _% q5 d5 V/ f; ^/ d1 l' G	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser , T6 `9 B! R- q
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE 7 _+ ^, n& Q2 a' B# _, f J	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ; M# o7 ~+ u' b1 V3 _) N. @
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 1 i) W; U6 d; z	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE 8 f4 m# Y$ j7 d: \|, p
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited" v1 z" d( T, D, l+ m; \|+ L	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 6 v8 Z/ {1 {) E' s' k8 l2 Y2 s. N
• 2004 Toyota Prius - _9 r7 {* }/ ?	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 2 k& M. f2 J. \; C- @
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ; P6 {$ i a& h' a4 h	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE % w; H9 _" `( o3 W; H
• 2004 Toyota Tundra * i& Y: l" N4 U! [% r	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 @* o: B! ]! \
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 7 N/ U0 `! x; X+ B8 O- ~	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 t" U2 w! @- K' u
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 3 ^$ I6 N! C9 S/ G" O	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE4 q5 x' E& D2 ?# a8 P; g- u
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited ( o6 M5 F& g3 b7 R" F1 A	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE9 N2 K* R( N% t e$ F
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE' ]: v% B5 l! {" X5 i	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX# N$ R' i$ A+ A! _+ _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE' L# l H* J" h' Q+ d) H: {	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE: Y5 k {* i# k& @2 A0 w' h7 H5 H
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE + A8 S, ]5 d y& ^. M2 q: ^6 i	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac 3 C! A& f2 j" A
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited1 i0 ~& H& L: N7 M# P! @, _! O; c& }0 K5 \	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton/ \|1 Z9 ]! [8 o" G
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 9 P; a( Y5 \1 G; w3 I* d0 z+ c	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE : M" u( N3 F) x- ?
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner" [1 G) T# X7 Q; [) O/ G1 s7 X( m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla N$ p9 P r1 a+ I7 @! I
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S/ U+ x. L% }$ O5 Q	• 1992 Toyota MR2 " z! i7 L* M7 o0 m C) L
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner K" l# p' B* Q7 X- Q1 Y	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 3 `) j5 W7 m2 {- C1 x
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5# }+ I2 I8 ^: y% z3 _- ~	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX - \& n0 ^. ?7 ^* O4 g1 m
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS & z, R; X; r% [( r0 J	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac ' L( G7 d* _" Q% ^, \& \|4 D: @
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner l9 }$ l4 \, t: q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR52 d" x `! B* @( y, G
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S 9 O- ~$ ?) i" m& `	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX; F+ F- I) R/ ?& }- \& X8 e" d( j! a8 s
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ; d5 i3 K/ q8 S" Q; M	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / r. {6 b3 y3 F2 R- B" N, S
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ i/ q, ~" {$ [! J/ h$ l, P	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser # y# t$ c5 `" [- k' {
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 7 Y0 c) d2 G, ?4 ]( {. f	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof' P- H. n! E$ q% j5 [9 H
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited & _0 l6 j! `8 s; a3 \| I. `	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE / z6 l) a O) D
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE$ Z' j1 t2 ~4 \|% Q	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR55 S# k/ z1 b6 M+ _8 m
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT + Z( P# j. f/ X4 E3 f	• 1991 Toyota Camry ) @& w% H' u( W; S9 F
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE ) V- J* g/ l( g" \" V* V( B# f	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 o0 }2 @+ T: O
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 7 l& h0 }* k' V3 ~% _	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 1 I3 G# S6 a. a7 J: I
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma # Z/ k+ E, g+ j+ T4 B" e) ?	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX. i4 \) s% Q# B) F, U
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 7 w' G8 C# j2 s2 g0 T, u. P0 A \	• 1991 Toyota MR2 5 T0 f& z1 M( Z* i
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 0 t5 V0 a4 \|& R" e/ }- E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5; }1 Y( E4 p; }4 R
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited# d0 [4 @% R( p+ y F. N	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 9 W8 x, ?% r3 q3 G
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE * P; l2 I# ~; @+ e	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ( d) T6 g0 o$ `& D% s, I
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 % N! D. a: K7 }' t; A	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac : J! P$ I! N y) L
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE $ o% A( k& A5 C	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof& c \|, _& @- d( F
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE ; S" I' r$ F- {- i: f% v- F" l	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 6 v$ ?# L. v6 K! \|% x4 A* Y3 \+ P
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited5 b) I9 B U7 H! T: N$ f$ E	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE % s, N- e L; Q" }/ g4 p( K
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited5 C" A: O1 ^0 u3 _( Y# h	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 Q& n! @8 V4 ^+ n0 v7 y
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited& ^& c8 n# ^) n! {& ]	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 1 d. H3 }3 S$ `* R* d) m
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 6 @ ?# [' N, B4 O	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE% V! l5 R* d8 X! q8 o5 H) k
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE) M$ O' }7 Z$ ?0 ^8 V* d	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR52 g2 ` }9 z) i3 ?
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited: Y: O- _) }0 ?	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ5 I0 G% Z3 Z7 X
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE& G8 M* x/ ~, U) H6 P! x9 i	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 9 \|; q( Q) G3 H1 E, \$ i
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT, o3 K: ~1 _1 Y. w! p, b	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base. {7 _: A' a2 p/ N
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner3 L% C4 j; u, s8 F0 c- [	• 1990 Toyota Camry 7 k# Y1 G6 _4 z* \. g2 ]
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S6 M/ z8 `" c$ q! g, ^7 ?	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 9 v. b9 \|2 ^' n6 j& `2 S
• 2002 Toyota Highlander - ?3 s1 h9 z- g L: }/ E	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX ; R. x2 M: j' b, p' n* y) D7 H3 V
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + _' n; t2 d+ g3 Z A- v# @	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX0 K8 I7 }0 G- n/ \|5 c- z! t# n% u0 p
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR51 t/ R. y4 A/ H+ l8 T	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ f. C3 \|6 r" b3 Z; u0 v' ?2 B1 h
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ @& Z* w3 w z( D# C" S	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 0 F+ r2 V5 \|% m* [+ ]% i2 ~4 Q: W
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE - q* Q* N" L d+ c	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser / r# c+ Q& \ M E2 O% U5 i) ?
• 2002 Toyota Prius - ?$ a; O- ^2 B/ Y0 W6 V* ~, d$ n% t	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton* H) r* A7 B8 M+ V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ( r1 }" y( Q e7 s, Q" z% Z. }	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX T9 H5 d+ v2 Z- @) \
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS & p0 I# w8 E. \|; x; f	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac4 c& D" s$ ^+ t8 D, \|7 G
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE6 E+ w4 S: y8 L, C	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac 0 r; p5 B8 s- ^; S/ i
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 1 z/ B8 J( `) h9 M5 Z4 [$ O	• 1990 Toyota Tercel * h8 ^/ t5 k" S) L9 ]6 `4 ]
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 0 r. V+ R$ g- i' H" d* M	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac& X2 L" i' \|+ }: U$ Y
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE& O4 n; V ` J3 {0 Z2 p/ O' z) C" T4 p- e	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac9 M- n2 O; K7 u1 @( ?* ]" K8 Q s
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE5 G9 ~$ t1 r3 e" T I5 i, \|	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger- S9 g$ i4 k: I. d0 X! T6 ]
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL7 Y2 ^5 }6 d7 o1 J# D5 H	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base 5 n4 z2 `: V; E1 Z1 O( [0 S$ s4 k
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited: f W: T V2 ~0 a; E2 ]	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 Q+ ` V2 i, R- ^
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT / _7 ~, ~* }& q	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 a1 g3 H8 F/ v
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE( [ Q6 N9 m1 ~	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE& O; B' \1 T% [" w9 ~0 \|
• 2001 Toyota Prius 0 b* `2 a) a* \( X \	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX# ]! D: b Y5 N2 P/ W, H
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma . B- o; O8 d2 B/ q8 \|6 e	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton9 f# m0 [! [% c. V; C2 X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra * ~; g. s$ X6 }6 F' y. t: R' G	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger+ i# j% {/ @2 q( t7 {' @
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE5 }! A5 k: n S, _0 U	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX: J, N5 U7 X6 H. e
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited: G& W0 O* A* O1 Q) V	• 1989 Toyota Camry " L& ^. @$ M, s5 ]0 y
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' Z a# l: Q; E4 Q* M	• 1989 Toyota Tercel , v) N8 ` p! l4 C) t
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE & \|; s( R; B$ z) d/ E9 v5 u	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX) W, k9 g& a# O( ^/ a5 S
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE % F8 L8 @" W7 O$ B( @	• 1989 Toyota Pickup % \' Q, [8 w7 A' ]( k% }
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 8 z; E( w% x8 N# f	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! J- j6 I) p _& \|8 h& b! O
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS . v5 V7 r( A$ ~8 X2 { s% ?7 M6 y( `	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger : b) ]+ n4 o' b# Y% M0 q$ X
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 9 \|/ G/ R7 z$ R& G% v	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ / ~3 S s4 c0 ~
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5$ m: U8 Z! h7 ]8 A& D	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel , W' O( m2 Q+ [! N
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner$ t9 l ], o9 c4 w4 _	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX ! n6 X: x6 ^9 @7 M4 [
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS ! U6 n; ]' R+ K+ \|; p- ~* ?! X	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ : o! b5 p( Z0 n6 T
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ( y4 T0 ?+ x/ W) z	• 1988 Toyota Camry ! Y7 {0 ?7 H& y$ B
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " d- R9 y) f1 Z( x( m b0 O	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ( Z# y) B* t% o/ E1 X' ~
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 B0 ~1 d7 o& Q	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger: h, M* }/ p9 ~$ Z/ g
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 0 X) o6 ]! l9 T9 ~: a9 T" C	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX7 q" q$ F& `+ F
• 2001 Toyota Highlander - R# c: R4 A5 D+ B* P7 Z	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac. [, ^6 M& d/ r" c& _% M4 c4 q4 i2 s
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 6 n' k7 R$ `5 N' K- p- g2 Z# f	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 7 R6 ^5 I) W' O7 D; A# r/ ?
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 0 V5 U: e9 z- K" u/ K% o	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger7 `. J7 m' c# ~
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 2 ?& o4 _& w8 U- I	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ( @5 Z% x' T& v! v1 {
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT & N9 s5 F0 r# w4 d9 B* B- n1 J	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE $ i; E( X- S* e# y0 R
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE # n& m/ c) M( Q7 L0 [ q	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window* m% D. R l8 ^8 e% ^0 h
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 # k! {$ E" t, T& K' \|9 x	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton + m/ f* Z" `8 l' u# x' o$ {7 }2 f
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! b1 S! @; T& b4 f! E3 t7 r7 D' P	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 i! f" l1 w! A" E3 O8 ^ u
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 & O' p2 U. y+ n6 ~	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 % k! t5 i6 {) z* \6 X. g6 Y! P
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited ! C6 i- h1 P8 t) x$ Z0 u	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger% b9 z5 M: F! H' C3 H7 e5 G- T$ P
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE / \% J& ~4 x$ _" ]$ ?- i" \|	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B # K" X2 [, g; Z/ ?3 ^0 E9 W
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS8 @" q% L2 \& R7 @	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac. R( W; ?4 t/ i- V* x& j
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE2 z9 d6 X8 k$ b* W2 m) h9 y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger2 a: z ^* \1 w* R' M
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 3 y \|1 g( I5 h7 {: d! @5 B	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 & `9 t$ b- I( Q2 e z. B, j& x3 r
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited4 Y2 F6 c. X7 p$ C5 r	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX . K- M" p( q j. y, o, \|( S' t
• 2000 Toyota Tundra . Q7 r Y2 V. h- h( V# m, D6 \| U. o	• 1988 Toyota Van LE! e6 ?0 a7 \4 R0 c
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS 2 ~ L: m4 \: K0 W8 l	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ) H- ^9 v, G) P- B. O- u- T
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE " z: A5 V; V0 P8 `4 d/ s% e	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5% ^% B9 r7 I& L$ l* R0 J; f
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited " z* Y# O3 G3 J* S4 u$ Y	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE # b" w+ c' D" ]7 B
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 6 j, N4 o+ L& E. J: e	• 1987 Toyota Van DX " f5 p: \|$ q: E9 p* L
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE! v( h: ?1 X1 m& a% {$ z" B5 T	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window l- L# b! B7 v
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ u8 u+ l6 L) [& H: X4 L3 r: R	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton$ r- S. v6 O" F% ~% \
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE9 K( i8 [$ y( b3 L) S6 ^3 u	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; n; U) j- r) X6 D G( s7 Y) b. a
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL; _4 r5 {' ^7 v+ d9 ]+ L4 d& J	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX C- _% `+ H3 w6 ]0 T% M! }2 g
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 7 P) N7 ]9 t. F' u5 Z	• 1987 Toyota Tercel & X9 N5 F% t b+ {8 x/ S
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE6 _6 }) V% L4 O Y9 U	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX1 u# W# Y3 z0 }4 z) L' b( g
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , Z- V, j5 h' s( L	• 1987 Toyota Van LE$ t( v X+ p# ?7 N
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE% }; q/ V9 }, S. f	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel* Y: }" D5 h) K& C( [) s
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE & d, e7 I- q6 y- M0 I6 [% o	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX ; D* k& ^; @3 P/ \
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 3 c0 e% F5 _6 R* I	• 1987 Toyota Pickup : S: @# v0 R: T- }( V4 A: v
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS1 A8 c9 P* a5 h; t$ c w	• 1986 Toyota Van LE 2 T( P9 Z# \/ P
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE5 j2 R J7 }" W9 x$ P	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 d4 \3 @* }) o, [
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner6 q; B, f) g# L4 D4 y7 Z	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel$ ~ @4 K D4 c9 M+ V
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 6 f: N4 k/ k, h/ q) A* x! {4 M' i	• 1986 Toyota Van DX # [) a$ U H; c& @) j$ K) I
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited ; \* C# j [1 y	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window0 @( l3 V: ^9 z! G
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 7 z# M, S4 e' [( J8 e	• 1985 Toyota Van 4 _& h \4 S" i- U* _1 @4 [
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE6 G+ S9 _$ q7 \: b8 S, {( G4 o' ^	• 1985 Toyota Van LE , O0 c1 L3 z! m, t8 h3 R3 \( X
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL " i; }) N. [5 i4 _: `	• 1985 Toyota Van DX# b: U6 \; R- b. \7 {: J5 l1 R
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE3 P, F' [( o6 {	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser # L% l3 W3 O3 P6 E! l ^( b
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited- M' \# O& u: L. Q# x	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ]3 k& ?* r K. m3 o4 o b
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE8 L6 ~& z& B- f$ m5 C" a4 S$ h	• 1984 Toyota Supra * D' \|( E9 } N, y, o* D* m
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE- j! W" P. j: J9 ?7 \|	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX % l" ^& m2 G: I# z. K; J2 a
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 9 X2 p, w8 P. M3 ^	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser . C# r. \|1 k8 C" C6 E/ W
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited * X0 T% ], m( f& g' o	• 1984 Toyota Cressida * \) N7 @7 M" l3 C8 }
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS! s& n; o2 O+ Q G	• 1984 Toyota Van & \3 ~2 q1 q8 v, j
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE ' V' }9 b ~+ L1 \6 F	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE $ a/ l% f& _' Z6 _; U: t& s
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner ! m6 t. e; A+ Z; k* d" \|	• 1984 Toyota Van LE 6 ~; t+ ]3 ` a A
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE , n7 S# E+ i( O$ Y. N	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 4 {( N" q* c S+ U2 K: r1 Z% P
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX7 L7 ] k B- u5 b+ v, i	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR57 f- R2 O5 }: e# ]/ G
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 y1 ^ R; b- E1 j3 ], i	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX " ]) U6 j3 d. X0 q
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE$ H4 J z3 \|( I- M+ y7 ^	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE - s; t% V: h) U% W5 D7 E& R
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE* L3 K# Z+ [; S. }	• 1983 Toyota Supra 2 V9 @ E7 k3 Y$ H6 `/ A$ a
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma , q& W" [( M, Y/ ]. }	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ) k, t2 [- [) o) \|
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL- ~9 U' S* C" x3 E: G	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX : F2 O& \% G* e" \
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE6 e' k' x! \( v% V3 @, U	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 8 u' H* w& b) Y5 L+ s; {
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner$ V& I% m* b" F C	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT2 o$ Y% T3 x2 w3 I
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ) O x& ~/ g5 v0 e! @3 g	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser J+ F% E1 u* k
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited * d6 S3 f& ^. [' W4 Q3 W	• 1982 Toyota Cressida ! B# e9 @* u! J$ _$ t4 B
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE+ M9 J- v8 G9 b	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX: K3 I, \|; D9 T; x$ O C! ~6 `
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 4 g: F% \|1 v/ D& I! e	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST0 o; e& ?! r/ Y: p( E
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 `. @( k9 b O! y+ B	• 1982 Toyota Tercel * o$ L3 o2 D) P! ]. d: u2 k; `
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX! S& x3 O- U2 T4 t+ s+ F	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 , y4 k5 ^, p# \|0 _- K
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ) { \& B3 y5 i! \ @	• 1981 Toyota Tercel ! k+ W' P3 f7 ^8 i
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS( _- t) r( J5 H5 O6 s) `& H	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR54 m7 s# n' i: V0 z
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX n/ t+ s. `; d! K" T	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 Y' \|& i7 R! ^$ i
• 1997 Toyota T-100 5 x( v# \|6 B0 H8 f, S# E& U	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX$ X; W) }8 E# L" Z1 Y5 Q6 z4 r! v3 O
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited( X0 H8 D+ b# \9 \|5 N- C7 f	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 7 `" c$ M$ c9 N4 b0 t* k
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 2 D; j( D5 C% e' ]* e( o	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT * y( B( E9 s( L1 i8 n8 y+ ^
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR50 ~# D, y M/ [	• 1980 Toyota Corolla - r- W# y" V1 v, D, H3 y H% G
• 1997 Toyota Corolla % B& O1 V( o, r5 \|9 `	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser z/ R9 Q& a2 E2 a
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 L9 w" \3 E: l6 H* v% ^	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe/ D! S& D2 O' T5 }) C" m; V
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL 8 [: ] `+ \|1 ^0 \; ~$ e5 M	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX; q/ O% t; K. w0 U. P2 k
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE " d j% E+ Y- h8 h# k5 j$ J	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST& k! u9 B$ ?: n2 k
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner " F4 r% v" I4 \|	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury ! ?. B* k& z( Y7 P9 l/ ]
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE& t8 _ h. V$ k, P8 M	• 1980 Toyota Tercel : ~8 V, _) l! R: o# `
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE : L5 A& b$ F9 Y6 w4 _	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 / j! j0 P# k& \2 `
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX " o' w; c- H5 v; ~4 C [	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe & n J& J' L5 S# \|' c( i
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE $ \0 \$ h* x5 C- ?1 ^% t	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 ) ~- x- [8 f0 @; C
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 B1 V. c; e% B- U0 T

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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3 z) z7 M" G1 S' `3 c1 ^ t如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
/ |9 {5 D& }- W9 y1 y; I" @, pToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
( l3 P- z0 w, n! V; R4 t* |• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
* x7 E0 y6 E% L" ]/ ]&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 + _( z( w8 y# R( K5 W3 n- o! v6 K
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 7 N9 {6 A& t8 X( h! u9 d

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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
- M% b) \- d" S8 y2 p. ?* e% ?) A' o7 X, H+ M8 c2 q7 B: b" A9 S
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
* S+ ?# k$ _/ O9 M
( @5 f3 [8 N; w/ ?5 G' r% `, C1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
0 ]% _0 q. s7 M% q1 @4 Q2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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