說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
- z) \$ _; I4 V! h学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
1 q7 g" c! T1 G; X4 t* A& Y' t楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ! u7 D3 I( R& [/ ?0 Z; }
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 2 W( @9 f6 q! e: B5 V% F) @! a7 O
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE : T' Q1 H/ m. V" K5 h+ c	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE 6 h2 x# k _9 B S* \|8 v
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport ( f. A4 U0 X% `% q! L9 M	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE % y! F; G6 Y" q* m7 O5 b E
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE2 H5 J9 W: O+ J+ Q	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX0 R7 g M1 A1 e5 }
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 8 N' M+ d- v9 n) T) m	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( u' \|" ], B: b5 w
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE( V. r7 F5 q$ t+ M	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE0 \|$ m0 b+ B( f+ w9 X3 q7 A0 F
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE, N* z+ h0 ]- y4 [: V: r	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX1 Z$ b; z; p! [7 o
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid & h' i+ J1 B" q# ]- O) Z	• 1996 Toyota Corolla + Z- w) x) R1 [; e( ?
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited$ @ C' Y" _2 N+ G$ X	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5) w. {% \|$ F) h+ k) q) K, E
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE; d" A g% l% o$ u	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE : h8 y& R: d4 t; k( a! N6 O
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE( [3 b9 I1 H& x	• 1996 Toyota T-100 8 m D5 \|% J) B7 B2 q6 \$ \|- C
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 6 I/ a/ O: m8 T( P7 L* C ]/ T: \|	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST ) r0 i A( X g* M2 e
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited , {- L, \1 y' }) F+ i L/ N	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited % w) O8 X8 @- s% D5 z
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner4 h1 y. c6 e; V1 i' p8 w6 f5 U, i	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX 7 \|4 O. l' F$ C3 P0 j& W6 y" t/ W
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE) I a) r, S7 `! q9 @* V	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 % x- y- v `2 s6 [; m8 i
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE v9 n$ x/ v. d! ]	• 1996 Toyota Tercel % u% m" B7 P- _* u3 j
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 b& O, ~* {0 p. p% x$ t1 s	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 6 v* g. B% W3 y% c) l; Q
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 2 H" b+ @- S, r0 g- w	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT * n; b8 m+ r; b/ \|: A! i
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 6 Z0 v1 v1 c j' {1 v	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 9 x% k4 Q& D& M H+ A
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL7 l% ^3 m( ^9 M5 h	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 0 K: B+ r. n2 P8 x3 d% y
• 2006 Toyota Prius ! F' `0 `1 E1 ^2 Y8 b	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX ! C+ R, \|5 h9 S2 U% x6 [
• 2006 Toyota Camry 7 }5 C. E' S3 C8 o4 ]	• 1995 Toyota Pickup " ?- U( f% M# t4 `) ^% `8 j) {
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring; N: a4 v( r5 [3 n3 P	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE8 j' x- ?: x5 n; w7 `# P2 \|
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma ; {/ t, Y" `6 l. g	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE # ?; I5 F6 Q: u& \- `, L
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE , O, x$ N4 a+ _& b* x: u	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton' @+ h8 H0 V- v0 r3 A
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited - T9 t% ~, z' f" I$ L% D	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 V; c9 x- d8 r. [$ K$ W; x
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner# ?4 ^, N( b* w: ^! Q) T8 E	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 # v: V! ~ ~3 M9 {6 K" A
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 u! a' A' Y9 r1 l) q- U# Z# ~/ V	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 7 Z K0 A: C0 j R5 ?
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 7 R- r2 L: s# D% U4 {	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 4 Z. g/ X$ }9 \|9 m
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ) A$ @/ \|7 o& ^' G5 a! @0 m	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ b, b1 r. R8 b6 l: g; V
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE9 b6 T: C, L5 @	• 1995 Toyota Tercel , M0 J, `$ H3 G. h, X
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ( Z3 [+ { e$ p* o	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ! \|2 s' }( t; e( c+ `" e
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner : e7 s6 z2 v. [! {$ o" o; k9 \|	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX8 d0 u$ N8 {9 J+ B" T4 s$ v
• 2005 Toyota Tundra . V& v2 H- m4 `$ x	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE8 B0 O/ Z3 ?: g) v* ]5 R% j
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 5 t& U$ `# l9 s. a1 y' N	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX: S) W/ J9 i, H( q Z$ }
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ) N2 x& I) Q, @+ @	• 1995 Toyota T-100 # f( B9 g8 l6 J' C, G; u* L* }
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited% ?. n2 u8 G; d" i. U# l4 @	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 2 \|2 @& g" B( ^
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL . P0 B4 r# n" w( o	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE / e- \1 K5 {( e& ?& N* h1 q
• 2005 Toyota Camry I0 O4 N! x" a& _3 g" p) c7 x	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 ]/ o6 t" b# ?7 x, J
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring% Y7 {: G) w) N6 I- o	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX - h+ k2 W* u" m
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE2 }" H7 _5 R. {2 [3 C8 e `	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX& d7 q% n+ u/ s4 J r; Z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE - t4 J1 ~# J7 q( j# ^ z7 h	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 8 K H d5 C1 z7 \' D- G
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited * t% g- ^8 O) {4 ]	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 2 ]$ ^9 o1 o3 i' x6 j
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma " H$ ~! Y9 U9 D9 W# P7 n	• 1994 Toyota Pickup " C, b/ T! l" d) L/ X
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S. q* b$ x+ P- k. g, z; s	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE ! V4 n" O2 [4 x [
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE / h4 m- _ _1 m2 b/ O	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE + @" F& L v: I& g1 x% t5 Y" \|
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited) \1 ]4 B' H6 B% J7 P1 ? K" v	• 1994 Toyota T-100 ; W) R; r! Y @+ _: ^7 r: I3 r
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR59 Q5 E* S9 O3 d/ I: q; N( s/ a	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR55 L4 g3 h4 L9 D& H1 L$ ~
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE& x6 f9 L" u( b	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE. v `- S: N. Q: k/ z
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 O. U5 }8 e" K! T" J: w' y	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX V4 Q( ?" ]( F+ k0 \|$ G. w
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS- Z+ Q7 T) z4 }2 o0 {$ V6 F+ f- e	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' F9 ]; y- ]' C, h" v6 l3 T
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE , Q/ _4 b- U9 \; B1 W4 a9 F" c	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE " \|& t2 e/ H: Z8 ]% f) ?
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE4 L( [( r! ]( i/ s- _% X: N4 F	• 1994 Toyota Corolla # r5 H" n/ y& C
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited+ p) h4 X# M x) `& q	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton, R" d9 u, s6 u
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 3 T: N3 H% `. a	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE / \% g6 n8 { v# Q7 `
• 2005 Toyota Prius / e" P6 S# D, X6 ^/ K	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 8 a. u3 ?: \|* X! n; h2 F$ `2 _
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE4 q: o4 o6 B) R; I$ m1 D% G	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton ! V2 }$ z; j; w% L
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE j* w- Q' p4 K9 h0 d0 v	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 H) L: d5 Z% {6 u
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited0 `2 i2 s; V6 ^$ M& u	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX( w3 }/ s; \|3 v: c7 x& F
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR56 C) W2 [3 D. R3 x, g0 X# s	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX" ^/ F' p! N0 q* m# x! K
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE; `4 y- L* W: V3 [- ^6 c9 [$ l	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 3 }3 `$ {3 s9 w. D; \
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE : K7 R; Z, r; ~! S5 }" U+ @4 a	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser % b& D) t* C; @1 P" w8 \" i
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE " e" T+ ^- \$ `" v3 h	• 1993 Toyota T-100 a3 c o4 {9 j4 d3 Q. E
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE& ~1 x/ z4 J) z	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE1 W( G& N0 _2 Q6 @8 d: Q
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 7 X4 N2 A2 Z3 K6 ?9 g: b	• 1993 Toyota Pickup ; ?" m; N/ ~8 J) {; v( `1 \|+ ?9 ?, q
• 2004 Toyota Prius 4 u1 W) y2 ~/ F& ~$ d	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 2 ~& `, u) ]3 M
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE 6 F# B- s' ?1 l6 \8 m2 ?. \|
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 8 O3 h* f8 u* S E8 u% h	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR58 c8 j# c9 }8 v8 C2 k
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE & ^4 ]" ^3 y* l8 P( ^) ]+ U0 q& p	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 ' i( d: G+ P! y9 n5 D0 U
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited9 q. a* k/ A3 Y2 m0 x' C/ h6 k	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 5 Q3 T& P% U. @( F
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 `- }4 V+ ]! q	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE0 I% M1 D3 T; c& ?
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE # a1 _! A# v6 y8 L+ [	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX( l! ~% e) \) \" y* x
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE, U* r' E; g$ c. n0 O; c7 ~& V, k	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE _2 a" [! F7 q) h# _7 Z1 ?
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE* y2 e4 A- R2 n. L* v	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac) K& f/ c5 `9 F
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited; x3 D) W" g2 L% J	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 6 q/ P3 U( Y% d! x1 E! }* G G
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 9 t1 K Q3 e9 N/ ?# S- ]	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ! {4 E9 V4 P6 ~6 o
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner! v5 W( q% v# W0 x2 e; x+ l7 H	• 1992 Toyota Corolla # w5 B+ i3 y S" S6 q+ ~1 O
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S6 v! p1 C2 m- z+ o& }	• 1992 Toyota MR2 ; L) B; \8 E% P: Y) Y
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. U, i4 U; C% A; [; z	• 1992 Toyota Pickup " q3 ?1 a- f1 Y- T8 c Q0 \|9 {
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5: M" N$ i4 C# v9 @	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX ( I3 Y% ]% o4 K! ?4 v9 L
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS " q; Z- g% ~" Y, }, [: l# N2 ~9 C; p	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac . C# a3 j5 K7 K* z+ T
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + h* b' e Z* P) k4 A6 Q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5, p" `8 j- `3 G: }9 S6 p# ~5 `- n4 d
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S% U0 C, b6 F6 W p8 Q	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX1 N0 ]3 r$ L& N" c2 P& M. j Q6 d
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited. Z: u, b; v2 V" Z' G3 O B: w	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ p" N3 {+ v0 R- `
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * N; a- j, a0 _& b1 ^. D4 ~	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 D5 ~8 m' X3 f
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 4 t7 `( N6 F( \|	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof% }' k; c# d! M9 \$ R: G
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited - F# [2 ^% D. V9 H2 k9 I) i+ _1 H	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE % T+ g4 n& @6 f' c$ c! X
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE- X; c1 O; \( A+ f	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + G5 Q& u5 v. c2 b# g) N" ]' p
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT3 T- p/ i' L! S1 a1 I, u( U	• 1991 Toyota Camry 2 K/ J/ Y1 t K6 R' B
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE+ W; m5 [7 j" N) I' S: ~2 f	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 b1 B5 H# D0 ? ~
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 2 b, {' S$ \) K	• 1991 Toyota Pickup % [& X3 U+ @, n* V6 C$ E4 s
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 3 u5 x: r1 M6 `! `	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX6 q$ N, I0 A. v7 s! G& s) E( {
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 9 F! G2 p% f b3 s	• 1991 Toyota MR2 . b: b3 n3 U( X, b) d* D
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 0 X% r4 Z! [. \4 H2 E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 p- b+ `" Y' S6 B
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited & E( A( O7 ^$ L% z	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX! s& `7 K X* q. z
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE. L8 t; Z. X: h B; Z1 c	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac; S) ]) y. u/ u6 Q. a. F. B
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 I6 ]7 A& x6 F, Z3 S, m7 E- `- p	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac8 E- k4 C8 ^1 X$ ?. B
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE 0 l* L1 i- j4 _- Z' V	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof , @* L. ]$ u' M7 C, G
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE ) W+ G0 W7 O; Q) O	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX q7 F g5 q& U3 [
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited - C7 I$ z7 P: f	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE & h3 b* l6 W8 W
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited6 g( h6 J' k' U0 B	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton / y3 J' M% {$ D& l$ W ]- l/ C
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited' F" `8 t- y+ t* s	• 1990 Toyota Pickup * F- u& s' u, I
• 2002 Toyota ECHO * p% E/ v2 X6 ~! U0 H4 q	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE- g# v* ~/ \|7 @" M: C
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE8 k7 r/ X! }1 O' u3 i, u& _7 F	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 o6 m/ k: E8 d6 a8 p( q( S: J* g
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited" z: o1 q& ?4 ?) R+ t4 W7 m2 U	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ 4 y3 t* b7 B7 b; G; d) E, d
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 8 r$ E K) E, k# N6 h	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT) Q( H, i$ i1 ]: r7 l
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT( c* Q9 I2 \|' Z	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base + l' p+ q7 `( d& f3 ]. y0 P
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner6 I: \( \7 S* q% K8 F	• 1990 Toyota Camry ' t. w7 f& H t1 @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S/ Z3 C3 Q8 q# z+ E9 N' Z2 q- R	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST $ e( e, J* H9 ~. N5 F
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 7 D, O& v; q( Y9 E7 M& m+ ~' [: K	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX - b; y% \5 T$ Y" Q4 @( \' U% Y" \
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. M* V2 [7 ?: j( ^4 w* i! V	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX- u. q2 D4 D7 x# ^# Z6 V" u
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 % C7 A4 H$ A2 e) i/ r	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; t) a( L- I+ P! x8 }: `' ?8 L0 y$ B" b
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! i; ^3 ^2 ?/ D5 u+ {2 f. R	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS( e+ O( Z7 y$ N
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE5 ~, V# n0 v$ t: q4 ^+ [	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ' g: G4 b2 W2 Y
• 2002 Toyota Prius 6 W$ H5 n1 r X# G& w	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ; A1 q9 H! H" y9 F3 m# k2 i
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5# v0 I; G! a! V- F- K	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX 8 T, c4 B, L- a3 a# p- \|3 B" V% G
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 7 H4 h6 H7 l L# K% K- X9 i- h4 {+ b	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac6 S$ J6 E' o8 T. E) f
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE 0 o/ ?! }* Y6 C n) ^7 \|8 I	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac # s& W5 X+ \, U& [' o) x
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 2 z9 c8 J* g$ @; F, X$ g	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 4 U* W/ d) \|2 p; s$ Y- \
• 2002 Toyota Tundra # f2 y( w8 G; b- Z1 {	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- { u" c- R) @7 ^
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE $ {! v8 u; _8 g$ J* c0 l1 {	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac3 z$ \$ o" m1 P' s9 z% P
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE# {8 ]0 M L: H4 s( j	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger8 I4 V' A8 Z* r I$ V
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL . U/ W7 R# A: E3 ?! w	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base 1 ~* z- A' w) h1 g' q
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited / _% b4 D2 X& k- Z	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 4 Z" {' L' a' s& {
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 3 r# \|. f) L, M% \' }" F	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 \$ Z/ ~" H1 k+ D. J9 z2 a- a
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE - X1 {2 ]( R$ d% P& O) J9 U2 r	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE 8 N' q, p& T" V$ T6 K5 @
• 2001 Toyota Prius " A* Z# b# X- W" }. B6 \|9 o	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX* A: C: e% x1 G, p" \/ k
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 1 [: p) O* F" H+ i# [) L	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 4 X0 w( A. X/ @+ o3 o
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 2 }: A4 O, \% k% p/ B	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger& _# h+ I! g( ^# x; @$ \|
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 0 Z% `9 D* S: B2 V9 \	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX8 m6 u2 y! E5 C7 d' [& w
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited( Y& Z) ?% ~3 n: N: `" q3 k; v	• 1989 Toyota Camry ( y' n8 }5 \* x
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR57 D5 e9 r( Z; B! W: {# D) F	• 1989 Toyota Tercel : `. _/ F) I4 h( p: k/ C
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE * f# t& S, S3 d& j/ t	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX ' L, \|* s! j" t; z) M
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE $ U4 w1 O* r4 W	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 2 C9 Q% _4 P8 [7 [9 ?* y
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ; A$ b: x/ d* x/ K) T	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 \|2 _; }( e/ k6 O1 P8 i
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS+ g4 b: a6 f& d% P9 ~	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger7 o/ `3 T0 `5 D3 ?. O; g& j
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE+ `6 U: G- D1 k" s N# h	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ4 C, g! R7 k* Y0 e3 n3 P
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR50 Y! w* G. f$ e# ?	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel; n8 w) t. \|$ C: Y
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 8 ~ { j) P0 a' q	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX$ J9 u! E) I. s2 n' z \* X
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS % K! m# c9 y# V; ]# q+ b	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ+ i9 T1 Z# y8 A @! }
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 0 \|( M) E3 i5 N7 E	• 1988 Toyota Camry 0 ^. X& g2 u4 [% \4 y
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner1 O r* h- p, c* x	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 5 H2 S2 S. T7 b- k7 y
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5; z& j& O9 i/ b, v	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger" f; h3 s7 Y; _+ l S- z% ?0 X
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE; C# {# o0 \|3 O9 m# p3 C* ~2 o	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX; v+ T! L4 X9 i6 h v
• 2001 Toyota Highlander - W2 ]- t1 s0 z" b	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % I# a: d) b! ], R9 I! X
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited . s; V, w% I& \' T9 W5 E$ q	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 7 t' U) {8 X, W8 S/ n' `. T
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ( k2 X% n! i( P/ p8 t& \|% a	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 4 I9 p2 l" m8 ?9 @2 \|. w
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma % B$ m: g. J: F* Y+ s6 [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 1 i; q$ r1 g; s1 B- a
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT& c2 T2 M/ [5 V9 M	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE- M4 F" ^; {; H
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE . g: B, E( W" a9 R# q8 T	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window/ [7 y5 k; l2 }* d
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 * \3 [* z7 O6 ?$ Q- [1 z! m7 F	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ; Y/ o2 v$ e8 \
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * A* d3 X0 ^' l	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ' m* V( B) k3 F
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 1 k, V6 R7 e2 M7 E2 ]# x	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5$ N7 ?( ?- D1 q4 S1 r1 D" @9 \) H
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited8 U; [! Y9 N6 H1 i% R	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 7 E4 q/ }; h9 J* J0 H; U. O
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE % ?8 e8 M+ X; z O# Z' ]	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B 1 X9 d* t; h# [3 ?& R/ z# l) r
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 1 [$ c+ Y0 N6 }3 h7 B0 M* d8 h	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac / H/ }. n3 f8 w! @" [. a l D
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE. h. d) D. O/ f9 E" ^, j" P1 t	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger! C7 U+ \|+ R4 C& C
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 3 Q% j! F$ k8 f( Z' ~/ O	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 $ {4 t, O3 m8 g3 z! @& r* V2 A, \|
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited9 u: t2 l& f" r: h6 q6 ^; D	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX2 t5 _5 q5 G, i" P- R/ a4 U7 x+ `9 s
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 1 M2 L1 m- g% t! x9 R8 v. A	• 1988 Toyota Van LE% ~% }+ C6 ?( Z/ ]( T; \|% P
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS, L# _, p, h! b) G	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser $ ^2 }5 \4 x! Q6 s0 @
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE , W1 U5 u2 Y9 ?1 a0 C	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5& M: j% E0 G& z% \
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited, W% z9 j' ] M( m Y+ g3 \|	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE! Q2 K' @6 V* Q/ W
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 9 f2 j" I5 H; Q" R	• 1987 Toyota Van DX N5 M& l* k& N( l
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE ; g9 t& n1 c) j0 S	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window 0 ~# T% u0 l* A8 X8 s \|
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5: B: b+ d7 ?% O) \# M9 t1 L	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton % P l+ c( f, d) x0 J
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE 1 L1 W4 ?* Q9 P% D3 o9 L	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR50 r$ ` t( b4 a4 p, J" m8 N8 V
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL9 w8 ~3 g& s% M" P	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX1 O1 j' \& R# K/ a+ Z
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner ( Q5 G$ \|' J; b N* r' @& u) N	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 8 E' _6 W2 h6 e
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE& a* d% p2 c( W( ]" K+ v	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX/ J n7 ~* {6 E8 }7 W
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR55 c( w$ ~) V+ x1 \	• 1987 Toyota Van LE & Y! J" r I: s& H/ _9 X' \|( ^
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE ( k6 T" @; D x; m: M& o. n3 T	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel ( m' p+ ~1 V. R: i, b v; i; {
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE) G+ O5 L/ N8 i: x8 h8 @	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX 9 C8 m! j+ s: N: ^: S
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma * E" ?3 ^5 j, q' H' [6 ^	• 1987 Toyota Pickup $ u: W% z8 ^& S8 t' `0 U- {
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS! J3 P( a( Z( v/ J6 ]) C$ F	• 1986 Toyota Van LE * S0 K4 m# R/ V* \|5 M6 [1 W4 R
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE % m3 i/ U2 ]7 M: T% n" G# V6 g	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 ^, o# j# W7 F3 t# W
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner* S5 X$ t) r8 L+ ]% n	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel* b- P* y! k- O; R7 Q$ V+ W
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 6 K% ?( d+ [( [& x7 f	• 1986 Toyota Van DX . X# n5 J8 Z% R0 `5 [
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited5 u' V9 W4 y; @6 O' t$ ?	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 3 P9 U8 V) {; \|: H$ o: r# x
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE% Y* {! U# e7 X- D/ ?$ a5 A	• 1985 Toyota Van 2 S; {* g) [4 [2 ?0 u# I/ _
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE; u3 Z. N$ @6 J4 G- J	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 4 x/ A m0 Z/ Z% N4 D2 ^
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL6 _0 A( h# ? o+ P	• 1985 Toyota Van DX7 e4 S6 E: k7 s& Q4 \
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE: _( Y Y6 X* c- C) X	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 [# h; T- N3 Z$ E* T( {9 Q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 4 N% b8 E1 O3 d2 n D* x# x7 L	• 1984 Toyota Van DX* e- R" r$ C5 i; [" v- N
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE2 W- a E2 T; X' V	• 1984 Toyota Supra / ^% ^/ E) e* {2 {6 e& u% ~
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE2 o5 L8 G+ W3 q1 v2 \	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX2 a$ K% A1 F" n, A" C& C
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 3 J9 h0 }: s! d s	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 X' q& X' R5 f$ R
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited 6 i5 Z0 n7 S* w% Z' R% \- I	• 1984 Toyota Cressida / U1 X2 `1 A7 l8 Z4 F
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS% T0 K: v( W3 h5 y' F	• 1984 Toyota Van + F& c# \| h: s4 K* j1 A* q
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE4 _& i7 I$ ^. }/ Z	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE 2 x( R5 a# E7 p: j% V. B6 s( j& w
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner , k' N) h, t& Q; O: Z	• 1984 Toyota Van LE. c) [/ V: U: H5 m9 E) L% b
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE ' k( j8 I4 n! w5 I: I	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE ) t/ x9 D) ^8 u: S3 q! r) O: R* j
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX . s& J8 k5 l: U4 A) i3 V	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR53 X! D( R/ T3 G$ k. n' j
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 l. k* G" R: f) t2 n! p! u% y	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX 7 S, a: r: l+ N& B$ g/ o
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE , ^0 ~9 L6 ~* L3 D5 ~2 c2 D	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE- s3 r' [6 P/ y/ m$ T& h' W! i& c* k
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE9 ~' G! M! e2 v3 H$ t	• 1983 Toyota Supra j( l( Q7 ~6 e8 [
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 0 S8 t) ^! ~# M1 A8 \|7 `	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 d8 P9 E$ `) h
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 9 b! `: W- C: y$ Z2 I# H# J6 @	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX: `* H/ ?& A9 }6 k9 {
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE0 O: y, }/ m. A! R0 z5 T	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 7 H9 @5 h' j- \; W0 x
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner0 @# ^% N1 O& ]/ X' z1 N4 j	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT: q7 q! P4 G# _& c# c8 \|
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ! K; \|8 O9 t' R* W- p	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser $ ]" c- ]+ ?. w6 r7 A
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited & v- [1 T/ I, S1 \; z/ O) t" {/ Z	• 1982 Toyota Cressida ( F+ H; e( Q) f3 C$ v# ]+ ]4 M
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE 2 X' m4 a3 ~9 I( m1 {4 k4 k2 d	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX $ I7 }& \, S3 L8 W* X+ n
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 * N- m; W% }, N9 [. J	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST * ?6 F% W, v. {& e! a
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5. \, Y; z& R' u	• 1982 Toyota Tercel $ j' ]+ t' R/ U! p
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX ' s+ c3 w) O* L9 N4 w* t" V5 A7 e	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5( K+ O1 `6 H4 ~/ y' ^+ }( S% v, o
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 7 P, A8 [2 {* h# K9 n	• 1981 Toyota Tercel f1 ~/ ]& Q5 C) ?1 U; S
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS( O S* P1 b/ ]) J4 l. [8 }3 G	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 * H. H) c. i; D7 g9 ^9 t
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX2 E: ]" B1 Y$ \* h% l- V% E& [	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 S: P- T$ H* n( L
• 1997 Toyota T-100 ) T+ F6 k' m3 J7 G/ N% ~1 S: V	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX - }/ I0 H1 r! b
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited & F5 a- O5 q- l+ X m	• 1981 Toyota Cressida % A1 U2 `( D Z8 G( d: X5 @
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE . s7 k8 l" I" z( C2 S	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT) X3 R; D5 o2 y c
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 3 T, g( x$ {0 ?! b	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 1 u5 }7 ~3 T h5 y% x
• 1997 Toyota Corolla - e1 a: u+ U9 f+ o	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser " B+ ?% j- t, I# z" ]
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ' \|; o: H. C. d1 M! f	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 4 p5 k ]/ w1 e) K: f& q; r
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL . q1 d% g/ O8 v& m2 d- a7 u	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX* {4 R0 }! Q% n# J, d [& ~6 X9 N
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE; r& i# I% d1 J! U" f* d	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST' b+ h- Y. K2 y1 ?4 C
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner / ?8 @* [7 g% B& r9 _6 s( ?	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury + N! j" m6 r' S) ]2 C4 A X1 m6 [! C
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE1 z, i! T3 Q5 n& p	• 1980 Toyota Tercel , ]# d# P% `: M" Y1 T% u
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE " R W- B d8 Y; x	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 . f. U7 T R: w) \" x
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX ) H+ g. j( D, k; j I" L% e9 V8 M4 {	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe $ J5 `8 I ^' }
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE ) j7 q1 ~% b( p( ~8 F4 I: E/ `; t, r	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR54 a& _" u+ f. K) E' [* f
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - x h. b) j, T# \|5 o7 R

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ; ]. w. r# I' g, e) B0 D

; p- l, n# B F如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：% h8 b `2 u9 @8 M7 W
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE; K6 f3 l! H4 M' u9 l/ }! z
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE9 `6 S0 R5 T5 X
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
+ ?+ ]5 M) t2 A8 L1 F! |: Y) pApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 # L3 Q% i4 N( X
7 _' ^' O) d& t: N* a# u! y
' E4 g0 G/ n* W* M: P9 @
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。, T9 U" z: F1 L" S7 _: f$ z H6 x

' b8 z% [4 L: I' N2 m$ }1 o* f' }由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
" T8 I7 I2 P2 h: `. N$ m
m9 p; G' M5 U& O0 a2 C1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
) C) }; h3 X5 q1 l# g4 T% m, h2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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