說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 1 N1 N. P( P8 S$ ^
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
~" L5 P6 q9 Z& s8 s楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 % t; N8 z$ O- i1 T
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 5 N- Y. w1 x! D8 ]& ] S
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3 {4 V$ l$ F% ?% K" d还有一项就是：, r8 @4 t! E- m! X/ B2 P" ?
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE 9 i8 J+ h) X0 u8 W: Q( U- G	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE : ^) p$ j3 h6 j$ c. h0 }
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport " o7 T4 p, k) C1 b7 ?	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE5 q! i! h5 f3 n% b
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE ) h& d3 _8 D: `; I	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX' u- k9 {4 C8 P
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5$ ]3 b# A# E; C	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5' F6 b1 w1 t" s' I, A) q- c1 L
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 5 O2 S4 m: H. B0 g) Y4 @	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE0 U& S9 L5 L5 F9 o! m
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE / m* ~+ }" c2 c1 u2 \4 j: F	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX! I1 [* m$ C0 ]) O
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid1 T3 L3 b# @% j- ]/ G, _9 u- n; S0 p	• 1996 Toyota Corolla - a q* @8 g; X( [8 ]
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited& T% \| s1 Y5 \1 m+ \1 i2 J& V	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5; {2 {4 V+ ^) B' H
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE/ U/ P& a2 k2 p) d3 d% o! \|* u	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE ! k8 a1 p9 i q0 ]9 r2 G
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE4 U' k. x' t2 @7 z2 R& C	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ! R& u2 u6 `. ?+ a2 C
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE " L1 z6 k1 Y3 e @- E	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST; m( M5 K0 R, J) Q; I
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 6 s' d, [$ @$ S	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited1 {: ?/ _3 s' g3 {
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner4 y0 j4 @5 J0 p; K4 t3 b5 H	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX) y$ O. b; x( e- k; q+ S( h
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE " u, e4 Y& q+ u+ Q2 w2 ^# B" ^5 \	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR59 d: ?# o- b. q
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 3 s( x& x+ R8 p$ c- [2 R	• 1996 Toyota Tercel + @3 N4 S: k8 _0 J9 N9 U
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5' O) C+ t* u, E! @	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX # C; u- H1 I3 \|( K3 l
• 2006 Toyota Tundra * h6 s/ L7 x2 m% v7 R6 R% y	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT E: `! K+ u$ F0 d @
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS ' O/ ^$ }2 m; _; Q	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma % q5 W% h7 U6 O) J! l& {9 ?! e
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL1 k% J6 A0 X% W7 v0 d	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner ) y4 P) o) ^9 x
• 2006 Toyota Prius 1 B5 w/ q' C6 y" Y- \3 r	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 9 }, J$ {! \| g: V" Y
• 2006 Toyota Camry # B% J$ T8 M* k* t- F	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 9 D; d9 t, K4 Q1 O1 m9 M
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 0 R- J1 X: A! `+ _	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE; `2 b4 w& \9 P' ^8 V, l
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 9 M( ?5 _8 h1 U9 c	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE . Y9 X" y& r; Y B) ^4 Q6 X
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE% Q ~7 \6 V% M* _' j	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton7 X$ @0 v' h/ t6 V: x0 P
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 L1 u$ y8 D9 R) Q) {9 f1 F1 u6 t! ~	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5+ z5 }/ K0 y; i b' \|; l
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner . I+ L5 A7 M' _* V0 R/ v8 L1 z	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 b u' h$ Z- t2 F1 b" `+ Q. E
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5/ t# {( r4 V# Q! [7 T3 s2 u2 B	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 8 L6 \/ f- r0 e7 X; Y' F
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 6 _. T+ @6 Q( k% D# [	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 9 S7 d. T7 m5 `; c+ Y( _( V0 X9 c
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited9 x( ]. n4 m# \	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( c/ c2 v# x4 @7 `% Y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE # e6 H0 N5 `/ T4 n& ]- L2 O$ a	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 0 k9 y# Q* a$ \|1 L* _( A
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS , o' b2 S' o* j% s$ [	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 6 j- G) F9 n+ V8 H
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; E* X! D" r# [	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX& E, B# ?+ R4 R1 N3 V( ?
• 2005 Toyota Tundra : k* v1 j' f& Y4 s' u$ Y/ K: s2 h0 Z	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE . D- q2 j$ q) d6 [+ c5 \
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 4 ?3 T: G' Z* F4 d' w	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX2 b: Y6 o* K# K' }4 A; _" b
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5* r+ ?5 o" b& T	• 1995 Toyota T-100 + K/ b; G) [$ _4 m4 Y, ^
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited P, p; Z/ \|0 Z, \|/ M7 ^) b. I	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma ' w( E+ H4 U! Z! M9 S
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL6 `: v# I9 t5 A* ~	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE! E# ?8 J, [9 T3 g8 c1 D; \|
• 2005 Toyota Camry ) c" H1 b) f# n	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 . m" e g5 l% Y0 A6 m1 y) t: u
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring/ U$ f8 {3 E5 p, D( A2 X" b* t	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX. r6 W$ x8 G3 V1 s# W
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE # w# E$ O3 {# ? f3 T5 c	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX$ H: \/ C9 v) k8 `+ N; n/ K
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE; ~, S7 L$ S9 ]5 ~( h8 t- W/ _	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX . o. N" I3 W6 t: g# c9 b- e0 m
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 6 D1 d: i. c9 s: A2 K0 x' ^	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 $ j% v+ e+ b5 o: Y8 s
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 4 s# o' k% u( s6 J! W	• 1994 Toyota Pickup + f( [: b* M7 C
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S & Z9 s5 }4 Q+ u8 M/ P/ b	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE4 W( T. Y; ~- k* x9 {$ P- U
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE # n$ y% U1 I) E5 H* ~5 H0 J	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE2 x. \" W$ w. d9 Q. f% K! M
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited+ z1 Q, m+ L% q8 E- {	• 1994 Toyota T-100 7 o; e* ]; F; l5 m+ _1 P. l: \|, R
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5" ^2 X0 B+ o* M	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 T: V( r$ e$ ]6 v$ n: Z
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE7 _ d( _' I ?8 n n" P: u' \|1 P	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 6 V3 t) T7 I6 M5 \|4 B3 B
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 6 j3 o' ?! G0 h) j0 }% z- P4 E. Z	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX - }, t t+ h. f1 C( l2 ^1 b
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS$ g" W7 E4 r4 R( A* ?	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 D# b# U3 J8 L
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 7 R3 l3 p1 P! D	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE; {3 _% Y* w; M7 O
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 1 O$ m! p+ {/ T: l1 o	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 3 ^. q- K3 k. [2 p6 k; l9 \|8 C
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited3 S8 b! e2 z3 I. ~	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton & N* _$ Q( w2 L* z- ?. g: u
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 8 @. v$ G1 u U3 k1 F; l1 I5 o	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE4 N8 k" t' K2 B3 \|- X+ k
• 2005 Toyota Prius 8 i# c' T% M+ s2 ^8 E& m _9 ]	• 1993 Toyota Corolla % f- a1 g) O* i* ?) V2 Y- Y2 W
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE5 _0 c9 k7 a! q# ~. M4 r; z" C! F	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton % U" e* ~. ^% T: ^ \|
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE/ Y0 V1 C% F! a m/ V/ ^% S+ k	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) k% y, m7 o q( q7 Y* h6 ~
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited9 t/ D! P: L3 e) x2 }& k1 m	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX0 v5 u$ w# M8 r/ B3 E- `3 q, F+ u, o
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 $ l& j; V# }& u: s @- P1 _0 I	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX * U$ p; o5 K! {! G {
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 2 v. \|8 J4 z8 j	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 8 ~: }% D( ?0 I; @
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE# C+ K; y6 Z' {7 \	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 f9 Y( k# L: d8 ?
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE) Q- c4 ~! ]- q/ P	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ( x( z9 Q6 p" H$ R
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 3 f6 K4 i6 _- Q) E* o	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE* K# k1 W6 d) T. l) c9 S
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited " u4 ], ~" j! X0 Q# b, L	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 0 U. T, G. B7 B) L2 @6 a
• 2004 Toyota Prius ! {- D# a z Y. @, p C' b$ O( i	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE7 d. C/ I/ @# h3 ^; c& e# }( K5 ~2 q6 l6 R
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma & k4 E/ k& D, P3 y, u4 Z$ j) v$ Q	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE6 a) M1 _+ C1 ]" G4 Y
• 2004 Toyota Tundra # U5 \$ @) n# Z5 M( ~, Y5 o; C$ Q	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5+ a/ P# \|# O4 s' a/ o
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE ( {& c# x- }9 F, r) L i	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 a2 g2 X8 \- E9 q6 i' Q% Y" ~
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 1 x8 \+ P! O# S& k; \	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE# h ~0 R d0 s2 p; o* b1 e0 C
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited) I: l9 u; j3 U" r# g. t6 m: D3 C, s	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE / c" y. B1 `3 x6 H% Z3 }, r) e$ ^1 d
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE 5 Q b9 U* f8 r	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX s* j3 [5 F' r0 x6 M5 }9 a
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE + N3 m9 O$ ` `	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE! h3 W9 ~+ I! _
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE1 u- L5 X" \|- A, K8 y+ {	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac 1 J; H6 _- R A9 t$ ?- `
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 1 A1 d8 v5 ]" x' _	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton: Y) d) O8 `( F% x { y" D
• 2004 Toyota Highlander : h& \6 s5 T, H6 [	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 7 `' y9 ]" Q0 o
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ( h, d! V7 e D! x( A	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 7 ]- p Q, {$ g4 m0 p# d
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S( i! `7 A3 }: H6 d" L	• 1992 Toyota MR2 ; i, x1 N, `0 D6 Z
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & k, m4 w* p( U	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 1 ]2 p% B, C- Z" Y
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5" h6 Z4 ^5 ?) F i3 S& S	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX# X+ k/ o. R2 i" B* A. N$ z
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS & g$ z3 Z' v, @1 n4 X: a$ I0 O" C	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac ' B e7 l9 r5 y6 c0 B0 j
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 8 C, b* C1 v3 v l	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR59 ]$ N4 c: @* O2 L7 {9 j8 m
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S ; J8 `. v1 r3 b0 v" Y2 j7 P( ?	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX $ M3 ^4 s. Z) p1 \|1 Z4 g4 d
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited0 I/ ^1 C: A. X	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 x* Z: b- V8 ^9 D; l
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 w8 H. I! \" `! D: y- a: @	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser * Z+ j' H5 Z( v+ m
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 7 _; h) Z& R. ^$ B1 I2 N% a. O6 @$ c	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 8 g3 n: X) l4 f8 p# a
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited, D7 a, b3 N6 \0 W	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE M( b' u. i5 N( T
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE0 R* V5 K1 t( ^) ?+ j/ s	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ Q3 a) t! d% V6 d, ]) u# m
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT* w# X7 U- X& _2 b	• 1991 Toyota Camry & z6 n" w: [) i& }) ]0 P, D m
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE # ?; _ u6 S2 @/ q0 D	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ! a5 j; h2 o$ _
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 2 s* c: P; L: ?8 n& ~	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 8 P! [+ z. _+ _1 [9 q0 @
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 5 k/ D, r& F, X# e4 G+ `. h	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ; [1 _0 J" j. e
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ) {. ]* }- \|/ R& c4 H	• 1991 Toyota MR2 2 ? `/ v6 `: E) f+ }1 F
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 3 E: W1 O; Y0 Q# D) o. }) g	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 m$ f) N! R# D& t3 H
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited & f# P( i. H8 t4 B1 E+ Y4 ?	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ! @/ ^4 w4 s0 t
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE5 c1 X9 D+ K5 p- q: W7 u6 X7 L9 J	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac . s$ X% \|& t Y% N! b
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5+ a/ c4 ]* T, s, M$ `	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 0 W2 o4 e5 U# W' A0 [
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE% }+ r! f3 \|$ T' \3 m3 {	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof) e6 s/ ~0 \ `6 B" f9 T
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE* z/ {5 w y# L. K7 P	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX4 s. O% Y% U& U, B3 P
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited % V$ H7 ]8 i% w- ` k2 w! J0 R	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE5 X) z% k# v- t% W+ ~
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited) ]. p+ t8 M' k# y	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton$ O9 A0 \|4 D& a5 c0 q- z
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 7 b2 ~. x8 r/ [6 ~: L	• 1990 Toyota Pickup ) s! v8 T: a, Q1 {. L: q2 O! {
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ' ^, G& S- Q! x9 ~: I9 Q. s! \" M9 Q	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE) t) ]( I, F: q; Z
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE; ?: D. e' P% E( j9 ~4 f- N: w	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 / P9 F% K3 W1 m/ m* T
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited; X6 ^+ W7 v" u$ C	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ) i0 W2 w$ I. `( ~& r
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE , z4 V8 `; h" n$ c2 ^! s! D	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT / S# p' S: ^* R4 [; }/ i" Z! q
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT $ q; o- ~, k$ U: W O3 h. I	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base % V* @( X5 O. X% V; a' \6 }( `
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ' j; s3 F. H* n/ G9 i3 o	• 1990 Toyota Camry - R, F! t5 }$ o7 X. @4 F
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S , r0 E8 f$ U1 m	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST ' V$ u, r {! p: ~
• 2002 Toyota Highlander * D0 }; P, G: H/ \|5 V( q3 i7 @	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX $ H# D- B" l4 O; {1 ^6 G
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 3 Y& e6 ]4 q0 P4 d; [' G	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX$ }4 J$ L8 ^# M% F
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5- M2 d' m- y5 x	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 # K# s( d; l, n
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' q6 T1 V8 V+ D- k5 F( [$ a	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS( I$ e" y& B& R0 N; W
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 9 I( ^$ `* s* h) j/ h. }, `	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser / k, s5 ^. l" x; m1 G+ l5 }
• 2002 Toyota Prius % s) S; V5 v" O) `, H	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton* o+ c3 i; R2 G6 s% V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 : k/ y. x3 x" G B; F	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX " h5 ]0 I2 G: o0 r" ?
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS+ a$ I+ @! u0 P7 I# q3 B3 f$ ]2 P/ N	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 2 `/ m% d' I! Q1 O
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE' F1 _* t2 l* a4 n	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac( T$ B; o6 E# E+ D/ _' x$ P
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma , h: o, @/ ?- K: z	• 1990 Toyota Tercel / I& s" A( g* i* L1 y2 P2 M
• 2002 Toyota Tundra : Z* I3 S5 U! F! [	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac: W6 m. ~1 [& J8 A
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 1 Z* b& i* U. X {2 d- }+ L	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac" p- Q+ \|. D1 K. O0 E
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE( p2 D* H# X2 N. ~3 q	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 7 O, Y/ }2 T! y1 t% X0 I
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL1 F* r% E* p7 k7 T' L	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base 8 }, s! c2 \|; Z; r
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited & ^0 t7 }! r5 I+ d, G$ \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 d: e% z1 P2 t0 J$ q
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 9 g/ d8 g; }5 N r( I8 R	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser M, M9 o9 i( K" h; ?, {" k
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE5 ^# m n( X2 P& {	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE . \! i% ~$ C P2 `8 J! C- `
• 2001 Toyota Prius 4 {3 \" n& M7 p	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX & @0 z/ A6 y1 u) ~; ^* O
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma * p8 q% b* t b) Z" p- \|	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton9 A: f% [+ p" k- f7 K
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 8 I9 W* `5 E% {/ t9 e	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger+ p, i2 g& \|$ \0 ~6 k
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE " M, Z Y' z8 K+ I' w' R* n	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX , e3 W' Z( N! j' U
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited & n" A" `; f) [4 \3 l	• 1989 Toyota Camry 8 b6 \|3 ]$ P5 a" K
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 s* N* a7 h0 l3 C+ J$ C	• 1989 Toyota Tercel * N; L2 @4 D9 F$ v1 G+ h( t
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE7 `8 U( u: C/ k7 \|* [7 g) ]	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX " H8 t3 w* q$ F+ e. u1 n
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE$ d" c5 a" P. h2 K1 w0 T4 h	• 1989 Toyota Pickup , V. d# U2 K& v; n# S0 @
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ; M. P+ U( A4 R4 B	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5! V0 N3 w$ Y9 o l, ~ D
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS& X/ k; t8 ^3 X7 M	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger9 {% X; E1 f1 ^- O8 C
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE4 J* J" V. Q3 H	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ+ h5 R; V; R6 n6 Q
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5& J, S. y, `( X2 Y	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel & V! P+ g) r' F
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner % K: S( `- B: q9 T& \; }	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX/ s9 U* X- T9 d h- l: Q) T/ Q- T3 g
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 4 q' T$ q, n R4 e. D) l	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ5 A+ n8 [! I0 P9 C
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S6 ^' K: U+ H5 k4 M6 Y" W* o	• 1988 Toyota Camry 1 d' D! H; z o9 h/ T
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 2 d! c* Y0 l/ L: I	• 1988 Toyota Pickup % Y7 Y* i; r3 b$ N8 w
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 " M5 W* m: t3 L	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 2 y6 h. }$ H( [2 f1 j
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE ) @- z+ t$ H+ w- I	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX e2 g. ]/ @9 ?. U5 z5 q8 Q. g) m3 z
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 0 o+ j3 B7 x! H	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ! O8 o a1 J/ N: s7 P3 [$ D/ r, [
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 F. L8 V X; b	• 1988 Toyota Van DX) C8 H+ g6 M+ q( g4 `0 t- }+ E
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ; y# M. u% K" `2 N" N	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 7 X# u4 S1 D7 G# b
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma : v, B# q, I, R	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 2 D$ Z \|6 O$ D, \5 w( {
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT2 s* J o5 K; N1 w% k3 T$ ~6 x	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE 9 \|* l3 b2 B3 N( V- W, B$ g) N
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE . W6 b9 b J3 {: i5 w0 s& c1 O	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window ' U% q" l2 G$ d
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 * J/ N1 a7 a' g/ p1 I& \|: b! U6 _	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton$ o, O* O& r9 ~- ]+ i ~+ k
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 ^$ D. b7 Q- o$ ~9 m	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser - ^" X# y8 X$ J* p4 x
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 R4 ^7 y- m s! A$ K	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5; Q$ ]* o+ P8 z, ]7 ^' f" h# v4 a3 v$ Q2 O/ _
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 3 o9 ]9 b# s) w- L	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger* s4 q9 z1 m& V) D! `/ f# N
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE3 r& n- `+ m; L( }	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B, j! s9 T/ E9 F% {
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 B% g( r) u. `1 H. e0 d	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac * ^3 e& y6 h- p& D' X7 @
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 0 [) z# P0 g* R' {	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 1 ~' e8 f3 i4 x1 Z: L) X' r( X: l
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 7 M, _2 x; H7 ~3 u# K	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR54 r4 g) x( E' S
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited ( }. E6 z. b7 H5 H	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX * F$ s$ Y$ N6 g4 r
• 2000 Toyota Tundra - P3 c& T5 K+ v i: [+ d- d	• 1988 Toyota Van LE! l9 F( j& C# o* ] f. ]0 B; Z2 H
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS. P8 \|# x! o4 ^" Y4 }5 \|	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser . W1 I# O. _6 Y! E. ?
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE$ F2 I: ]- @8 f W- V	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 ) o! g: L+ q; d" m
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited; m$ T( D5 R1 B	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE3 f2 e5 w& z: l0 M. J( h: K
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 7 V4 N8 n' X' B! }* ]$ i5 b$ f7 f	• 1987 Toyota Van DX2 L- _2 }' ~& \|& S1 j
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE4 r1 a6 Z6 j. ?2 q	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window4 A* @8 I* R- G
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & L) E% A; b6 o. r, r! b	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 8 @* k( ^* y- {1 R4 R
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE ) @- C, m% ?! a3 \& j	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 * b* e4 B: n3 t' d! s
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL4 i: A9 L t+ F' }6 s	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX B6 p8 H* E/ P! W: }; Y
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner . _' {+ @/ Y* x3 c! l6 m	• 1987 Toyota Tercel + Z+ Y/ }4 M8 k3 P2 v3 E
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE6 W, A4 t b- S8 d) {7 `2 R% s	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 9 t7 S+ B% T; s# K1 \
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5% f0 w/ @* a, k) B: r	• 1987 Toyota Van LE! @( \|! Y$ b+ t1 h/ o$ w
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE/ T& W+ e9 \+ }7 u' w0 s4 G [# e# v	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel- D% F* R% G e) P2 ?
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE # I; h* h" _1 }- L+ B! B/ ~	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX # f) F5 Y: [1 g$ }, Y$ W8 Y! n
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma * W. l2 N. g3 r" d8 W& c	• 1987 Toyota Pickup h4 s- I! }3 I0 {
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS " A) v# u7 _+ s" E2 h5 Q, y8 b	• 1986 Toyota Van LE& @$ J. {5 s1 m1 B9 D6 n( q. h3 w
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE; b: `$ f, f3 L# C* M- G% Y- v+ X1 \|( R6 X	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser , g. U$ K2 P! @
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / B _5 @: p) f5 [. Z	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel 6 T6 N: o0 D. x7 ?$ E" N1 Q) w [% b
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 ( q: Q1 n2 S% r	• 1986 Toyota Van DX - v0 r, q3 C# F3 `8 k7 Z# A
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited ; p- d% z( H& h	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 1 ?/ R0 Z1 O8 ]' H5 M. i
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE/ O, r) s- L7 i- g* C	• 1985 Toyota Van " r- w" g' D+ `- Z9 I
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE 7 @ \| ?6 I2 W; @	• 1985 Toyota Van LE0 h: l) X+ \) R: U, F# q$ Z
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL! Y# J$ T- V) H1 q4 Z0 [, E	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 8 \+ _$ @% l+ p7 l8 O4 f
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE # L R% o( z" \| l+ @2 B	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser + T9 e$ \2 s. v3 ^. O
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited _' Z4 P' L' a: S	• 1984 Toyota Van DX + }( o4 k$ {6 ^8 Y3 T. q; C
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 6 ]/ {! Z/ _9 g& `: y% r	• 1984 Toyota Supra 9 \( u' e) e1 S
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 7 o, v, N: u. \4 m	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX - e* D, b: ^0 D0 T7 R3 M
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 7 B s8 E8 v2 q' h) B' `" k& k6 N	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser & K/ J8 U8 M6 N# @
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited 9 p- Q4 ?: Q# v v7 N	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 6 \|; R7 E1 u0 _0 ^; Y8 X5 m
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 9 k! a4 t% Y- ^6 ~	• 1984 Toyota Van 3 P9 a: l2 E2 W9 X( c7 o" [- x0 O4 t
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 1 e+ s4 ?" e" X. H	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE4 v8 R6 k8 o- j
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner % B" ?* z& A* j9 k7 G! y) w) L	• 1984 Toyota Van LE 6 _8 \: k+ N9 v y
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE # f$ I% ]$ b4 S' ~	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 8 X1 w8 n5 F0 f( G8 w4 {
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX1 t2 B( M2 c# b$ L/ q7 Q	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 3 z3 i. k/ E) Y8 P5 g
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 \- t; T3 G! s$ R6 Z	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX - i9 k) E- @( \|* A$ ~' ]% Q, @
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 0 a) i1 Z: Y& _( v* _	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE ! c( q J& A9 j) \|/ a
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE & \|" V/ Q/ x( u Z% L	• 1983 Toyota Supra 0 I- a0 ?4 D) M- x+ r
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma $ m' c7 q& _$ o, Y. E	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 W4 \( I$ ]: W( }
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL1 _0 X1 y O( G9 \|' f+ O9 P	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX$ J2 ]+ G w( J( V, c; q6 ~! H; G! P! [0 v
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE " S: g7 V E2 J0 p% Z- B& i	• 1983 Toyota Cressida % M0 m- D: f! {& e1 @
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . c) S/ w; f: o- P% Z: Z6 J/ {2 T% R	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT& m# o/ I4 ?$ c4 c! k( D ?
• 1998 Toyota T-100 , t) o0 ?9 d* A9 C! d8 A8 s$ g	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser ! C$ n' Q2 ?+ R5 S
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited2 c, Y! R, F$ a: g2 E d& Z9 G( ?	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 6 P: ]- g$ N# ^8 f
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE r3 L/ V2 F' ?$ r1 K7 b i4 }	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX- W' u0 u- k" I" D
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 $ t# ~" M1 Z3 L	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST* U% U/ q% S* }& O' u8 G1 A1 Y
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 $ C& T9 g3 U& L	• 1982 Toyota Tercel : S4 [/ `9 [3 C6 M7 j
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX6 S4 f' U: G3 ]3 d. B/ k: Z8 D	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 ) {9 Z7 `2 n b7 e
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ' E9 j7 x7 N6 m) m) ^9 N- ~/ F9 C$ Q	• 1981 Toyota Tercel # ~* [0 w$ n1 f" ~3 T7 \|4 O$ n# S% b
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS3 r& t9 m" ~+ \|! K( r8 \: f3 j) C	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 ! k+ R8 j& s0 h8 d0 m
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 8 C* r' M- O5 Q- ^9 V, d	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser + b; K6 W2 M( Z& y6 b+ [
• 1997 Toyota T-100 - j+ N) V; {: d- Q$ h2 n/ Q8 r	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX7 Q; Q' ?: C4 F6 B+ X6 d6 k
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 `5 E( F( }1 X, U" m7 G+ t	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ' \|* Z/ u% `8 [. S4 L& k
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE ) v% K e, e" w	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT8 P6 t2 e: O w5 ?# H7 R6 j9 F
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5# Q: n$ f: S% i7 J' b# K! b x( u	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 3 F0 r, ?3 L: V( ]+ P* g+ E
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 1 ~; o0 O+ u/ R" p	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser - e5 C) S( K! t& P1 N
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5* v/ S- s$ H' m) H! `	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe, k& }2 g( I" Z
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL7 b) D8 m) `: \|: g	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX& ]; j, a/ {' d0 S! O
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE( P6 l0 i+ I+ G/ K; F; F# W2 f7 j	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST " ~9 x' t; Z0 P7 j1 c$ L! {1 S. j
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner , L. a f: y; o1 @+ w* w	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury. b& b! S( j' @( ?" P" V6 i0 n4 [/ M
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE ! I7 z: ^& p2 ?; m: f5 N	• 1980 Toyota Tercel - g. l) R# I8 c Z* n
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE, [/ R) G9 J$ Q! c2 c# _	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR57 @& b* S$ [0 e) K
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 3 a* Y: S Z9 F& N	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe# B: H1 q( L- G) S) t
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE 2 [. A8 }+ N6 J( O7 \|. I" n0 n" V1 d	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 * l5 j7 \|" X+ ]/ Z
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR58 r) s1 B, b$ H* g' d

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 * A2 s% I4 |+ E

3 f: \7 v0 A7 y$ ^# p$ e如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
- v% L0 n- t! J5 b& f3 wToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
) L1 Z) x# `( d$ W1 y! W1 g• 1997 Toyota Camry CE; x1 s& `# `6 h( [' Q
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 9 ]5 Z9 r7 ]5 N+ I
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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# c6 r9 W1 V6 d- e佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。0 L8 c. R, ^( G( N
4 ]+ Z' Q) _; r) e
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
' j4 I6 [' x! u* d+ J, Q1 ~3 K5 F3 a) D
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；+ w" k* ]9 @) ^ G4 K
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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