說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
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小猪豆豆

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
  B8 |% A/ O- D9 G学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

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冷眼看世界

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
/ u% h5 K+ n; G; l' i* {楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

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let's wait,  see and wish you a good luck~
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: w! A' `! L! v4 D5 `) w" t5 ][ 本帖最后由 冷眼看世界 于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

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酸葡萄

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
8 n, S/ T2 Z4 V2 [9 R: [( y1 `楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

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四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人

悦耳的鸟

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan

仁者见仁，智者见智。 北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：
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& ], b& w4 n8 @) ]5 n# G1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”
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" l) l" S  t! [  f- s. C. H    http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp
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+ ?2 [1 I9 s+ r# Q8 f& {3 e( W2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3)   Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness
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4 T0 R; b  Q( \; i2 g/ X, l" Q      http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

- z8 J7 n3 D. J衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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0 a2 W% ~; W9 D. G+ C# M0 f看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

' H8 @4 P" L7 x& Q2 J0 ~1 c5 I还有一项就是：
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. h( @, ]  M, K: u8 {0 F; J4 Y4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."
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就我的经验， 各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜， 便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表


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还有一项就是：
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

5 O: J8 S. Z$ i如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE " z- d1 C5 \6 R- N5 T5 `) e0 B	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 4 a( k6 W# u9 h4 p% a3 E( }
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE % ~& b& O& i1 ]7 s3 c  @% z' ]( h  P8 ~( C	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ( p/ C$ T" d! `: A4 v- S  j: n	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE + t3 r0 I# d9 n" p- `# g" W, h	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 2 L6 U0 O+ l! x: |	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 9 Y9 i. j6 E8 `( k- l+ u# K
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE : s+ J% \- X1 D( \0 u  a% ]7 v	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE   E# R' I6 u! a
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 5 ^/ I  K6 O$ i7 T, C. e. j
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited & U' T; `6 [/ j3 n/ K
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 . c3 [. y1 g+ @" ^, n0 n# S
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE & f9 x- `9 k; j) C; n* p	• 1996 Toyota Tercel . u0 [1 x. E+ J# }$ l
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ! E& v+ Q' s6 ~' y	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2006 Toyota Tundra	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT 3 n8 X. x, S$ l# b9 Z
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 3 k4 |3 [1 x$ i: g6 T8 ?$ m3 X1 K	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner & r0 R( h1 `! l! G+ S/ L
• 2006 Toyota Prius 5 Y; z+ D1 d" ^. P; q! W4 u	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry   D6 \/ E5 x  L$ c- Z" |	• 1995 Toyota Pickup
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring . {- G# ~9 G" H% f" w' V( E	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma   k6 h' u  C  I. e  V, `	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 2 a8 a' t9 o1 D+ s
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton   @! y6 `9 C4 h  f
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 h0 M6 L6 W9 U2 A) }# L, W	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 + |0 n5 X0 G4 t8 j! L. R
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 3 f2 B* u  ^. M( q  f4 }	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S % ^! ^' \& \1 A& Z2 c1 {	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX   J4 o- S$ J0 B% [
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * _6 c, d- _" D* ^1 v
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE ) Q" w' r* `7 D6 x' `	• 1995 Toyota Tercel   P* s. {' P; r7 p
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1995 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX 4 a- ?- l5 _9 }6 q3 ^
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 8 r6 n/ ?: q6 u5 G! |' i- a	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE + y0 [, w6 \9 X0 a4 W
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 3 Q7 [: @$ y* @4 v4 ~
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . ?* S9 u- d" _0 r' f	• 1995 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma : l) q: R: H4 U( ]' {2 P" j/ X
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX , g; d3 {9 G8 p% L* {7 q% T# m
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE ( `0 S1 r; m" S	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited ! B3 A/ U# h/ v# [6 q; r! G	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 9 `5 I9 j& g3 K% [4 c, m0 _3 X
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited ! i2 R% X! d* u! u4 Y9 }	• 1994 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 Q4 [0 G) u+ N0 p, U
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE & e( Q1 \+ e, p+ V9 E
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 * d2 ]1 `; Y/ Z0 c7 T6 u	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 # M: E: @* Y/ B
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE ( M+ n' f- ~3 x* P7 }: A
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 5 O/ a3 I3 F4 z$ z* Y	• 1994 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 0 S4 [' j( N/ c6 _: N+ m" y	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE & ]2 H& O. {0 @
• 2005 Toyota Prius	• 1993 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton ! B4 g3 q1 X; [$ q
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 8 v0 E6 N0 {' F% P	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 9 |6 f0 Y# {$ B$ J	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 0 N: v0 @/ L0 y5 A  H! p
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser + m: C5 T) H9 b5 D. z
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100 : [' h& o/ f7 {- j
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE 7 Q, Y& e! j2 @# @7 W" l
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 9 @& i) c. s, _- v3 w: V7 ^	• 1993 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Prius ! \: D7 m1 K2 H  w  {! H	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE 6 d' U8 X( o# m' C" l0 V
• 2004 Toyota Tundra : y0 f' T8 Q' f6 u* L	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited   B2 W6 T0 b: H/ ~" l$ x* M! t	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 3 N7 b, P; {2 N1 S9 }+ T
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE . T2 s; B1 l6 S: q7 m  w, g
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 2 y. ]: h0 D# t	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac ; P! |6 q7 P1 C. W0 _. Y
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ' {4 U: b9 ]1 Z1 O& x7 s
• 2004 Toyota Highlander	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 8 w% o4 w' J  S. ]8 R/ x2 C" u
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ) A1 _/ y8 T! G; G# @) p8 ^% M	• 1992 Toyota Corolla
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S : N  N. H5 R4 D* g	• 1992 Toyota MR2 % B# M& @' Q' X( P1 R4 M7 s
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner , K2 x  \- f2 _	• 1992 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 : m! ^! O  x8 e% r	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 6 Y& L, |  y% h) Z2 W
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 0 R- t# U. s; i/ p( I2 S, X! }# f	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 . L, x$ g+ h3 Y+ a7 c3 S; o
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 9 }; g+ T* J8 s  }' i' s	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser " M( S! C. N. {# u: O* ]  s
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 8 U. N% x" T2 h( M' U) s7 i# v- c3 t
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited ( J( s7 Z" k. r	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 8 e0 F# V3 M9 E. p
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE + c3 a! w! d( s! q8 L	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 P3 W9 J2 o/ \- _6 q3 c
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT 8 v# L) h, l' K. f	• 1991 Toyota Camry 2 n; e5 J+ b% I2 _7 f
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE + b7 q# A8 A5 C# `( _0 q	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser $ n1 w. E+ J5 X6 C4 i0 D7 V
• 2003 Toyota Highlander	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 5 |$ d4 y+ s3 E
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX - s% Z( V' x: z: c
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ' O, P+ N* G, |2 z, C	• 1991 Toyota MR2
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 ) r! @+ k4 @; |5 P+ O! l. C9 e
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 3 y  i4 ]/ ~' @& U- a3 v, e
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 9 c& d. l, I- m: [6 z	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac . W- k2 F" P. T) ?
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 7 L% o% F, _, r/ i; l
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE ! k3 G; o& x) M1 \- Z	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE - l( t5 S8 A; K" Y+ I' ]1 Y: ^	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited 2 p7 D, ?8 v" ?& n	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton & \3 T! y0 d; R5 p
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 8 y- _. G" x. Q! F, t: V7 g% W6 M	• 1990 Toyota Pickup
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ! x5 a1 a% Y' ?  E8 o	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE 9 z* j" P7 A- B6 D) h9 i	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 * \' `( X/ @' ~$ E/ w* s7 S0 N
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE . S5 ^; t/ ?2 g( r% e& J' `	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner / R# H- `, J6 g; ?9 @	• 1990 Toyota Camry
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 8 J, B' D" @- J: V+ ~	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX ! F2 E: P9 A7 b- \0 c3 o5 ^
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # S( g( |$ `, ~" I- s	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ r+ ^# l; g: }2 r	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 5 J% f- b" v8 }* D- t6 X* J
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser / i0 @& u  O8 [
• 2002 Toyota Prius * Z9 ~& H) p( |9 r8 x2 {6 I	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 m9 j4 Z& h7 f; D; v9 {
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac / i" f; d; H7 a2 P% _* A% R
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma	• 1990 Toyota Tercel # G1 X  M0 S; ^- ]8 E, C. F
• 2002 Toyota Tundra # B+ a# n5 h$ L( l. f	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac + j  q$ @/ [2 W  K$ n% Z
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE * J% O9 Y/ s* C; d	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac : _- @9 G  F, J, }  ?/ n. @. F7 T
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger + N+ n- y6 V! ^( ?& M1 u0 K' g
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL ' h. H  s' S7 t; P/ U8 S	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 i/ r" ^6 U( Y; {' P% A	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 0 M$ o# m9 E7 k. ~0 L5 b: s
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT , i- s; D  X0 o4 ~% F4 r) ]  N! o	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE
• 2001 Toyota Prius	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX & ?' m; u8 e( R# b  d/ d
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma ' l, H, y& }( ]- e* [- z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2001 Toyota Tundra	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger $ D" M4 G$ |9 P' r0 X2 `0 f+ L- ]
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE $ |$ h8 e& m: F2 Q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX * v; f% s# s# |8 n
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited & V) ]$ a* U* v8 }! b	• 1989 Toyota Camry 0 Q# p" W: ?0 W! Y1 X6 ?" \
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - D3 s3 [6 \$ A0 h$ _	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 7 ^4 b; G4 J7 i9 E4 G
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE , B/ g% l0 F/ i2 Y	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 7 ]  m2 t/ M- Z' {4 ^
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE ; J, a6 }1 s- T! e) H4 ?- f	• 1989 Toyota Pickup & [3 K# Q1 O3 T6 ~& x
• 2001 Toyota ECHO	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger $ b6 {: {. c* [7 j4 @( z% a
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE : W2 O% y7 `" k3 W7 ~8 h$ y6 I	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 - f0 e) n8 d  u7 j	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel ( Z' d, s/ {! j( F% E, |& P+ r6 E; [
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner . r- e, R, k. c9 z2 e* p: _; U	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ ) k4 J" }! P% a  E0 H( M$ U; n+ [  @
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S " ]6 I! l, X0 c	• 1988 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # S4 l+ \! U% x9 K/ w9 G	• 1988 Toyota Pickup
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 & d% h( `$ Y2 g	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 8 p7 m" t' R* Z  _6 p4 A9 e( j
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 8 R  ]& v1 E+ y! _$ P/ v" W	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited # t$ }3 k% i* t2 w/ L8 O$ ^	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 9 t0 ~! k3 B+ v5 `" A; M
• 2000 Toyota ECHO	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma	• 1988 Toyota Tercel
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 5 w( @; i" @+ Z" f	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 2000 Toyota RAV4	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 8 T: f. j: ^. u7 n7 G	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited & ?! M0 p: Q" ^  ]	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE , ?; f/ T# l6 s, ^9 q% s	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS - ]9 z) x0 u+ m4 y0 D	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac * U5 ]3 o# ]2 ~/ e! K& I* d
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE - e3 P0 H, t- W7 p% b	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara / o; r3 i7 t* O. T5 A, C. o. L	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited : v. H0 u9 |0 @5 F/ g' u4 w, F	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2000 Toyota Tundra	• 1988 Toyota Van LE ! ]% h' o  W* H$ z) Q
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS 9 M4 c7 {' {/ }1 ^+ ~	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner	• 1987 Toyota Van DX / V. ^+ L7 D7 x$ \: e
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE ! |* y- ~- z$ i8 `( G" `: [4 a	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window # T1 k% t- U3 ?1 Q3 h4 S
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ' B: V, e( }3 L0 P# x4 `
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 8 y3 O" C" I# L4 Z	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 7 F! f3 J) z+ J# y	• 1987 Toyota Tercel $ F( x7 {' F6 a' p
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 s; w; ~% ]+ h/ S! k	• 1987 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE 8 W, b" K4 U9 X" o7 n  L	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 6 n3 y& E+ a3 S+ f
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 9 r* M9 w( Q7 `" X
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1986 Toyota Van LE   E7 X9 l2 A* k3 e) K
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 Z/ v: W1 x  K, ?' v% b. Z
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! V' P( a% {0 y8 ~' D	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel " b, U: {9 q! x
• 1999 Toyota RAV4	• 1986 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE	• 1985 Toyota Van
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1985 Toyota Van LE : v' Z# q0 E8 Z# |$ d3 q8 m% `
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 3 T  E: E! X- N4 \' D* e2 C  ^
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser % l: p  l. `* L" @( _( X
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 4 C" q* E# x1 `$ @" X5 w" a	• 1984 Toyota Van DX 2 @* X7 |" l' a
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE : y9 S4 S  [" S! Q% X! p	• 1984 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 0 `( h4 p2 U5 X	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited : `" o4 X! ^0 o% |& j	• 1984 Toyota Cressida
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS # u4 [& x% Y: T/ J	• 1984 Toyota Van
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner	• 1984 Toyota Van LE . _% u7 u6 D0 V8 m9 I* x
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE , g( z3 b/ d/ i( b' [	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE ' ^( s! x, \! r  r) \) y3 S. v
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 0 a# i; h0 D6 I7 g2 b& Q$ d% ?. t$ f
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : L2 a! ^* |7 i2 v7 p& }: x3 Z! ^( {	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 5 r1 U6 ?) p  ?" N% S* d5 E% A) F	• 1983 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ! f9 V4 e) v' `' i/ ?/ C* O	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ! }3 P, \/ F) \1 W! _
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 0 }8 O" W% @; {0 f6 b# Q	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX 7 `5 b* E3 `# f1 q' S( v
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1983 Toyota Cressida - v# u- J$ h# v3 U9 r
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT ; P4 i' B8 s: p8 e
• 1998 Toyota T-100	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 r6 ~/ O- K) K
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1982 Toyota Cressida
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 , d# Z( z+ ~) V0 t	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 }) [9 ~2 n! O5 [- Y( [	• 1982 Toyota Tercel ) {, w- A" _" h5 P
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX ; N( h' y1 v9 M& q- u	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 , l* J0 I' F% y* i& H8 d1 D
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 3 r' W. R! H3 g) }7 T	• 1981 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS : _6 |' r8 I2 k0 d+ k	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 4 `4 v( b. A) i) w
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 7 `5 `4 S8 M2 o* y	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 e$ s  h+ a* |2 X
• 1997 Toyota T-100	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1981 Toyota Cressida
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 5 Y: a2 F8 D  h# o5 m% k5 [	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT $ e8 l  w% v, j0 {# B; ~
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla
• 1997 Toyota Corolla & ^* ?, W0 d7 y: q	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser / {) n( o; X/ c. W/ ?
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 4 Y. M9 Q0 r) }
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST / O+ V9 O- ~( U' B; W
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner + t( y( L6 u7 i! a! |$ a	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel " Q- @1 r' q' `! S3 Y9 v' \& [/ \
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE ! T1 m4 s, s) v	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX # ?3 V" G) U# h' v	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE : L" n0 F1 b' M! v5 e9 j	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 5 |! M2 P3 p% f/ w, k
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
7 d0 b) T" l% a+ LToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
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( {6 G7 U, p1 F佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1 ~6 x6 q4 @) ]& [$ P$ U; h( F, Q1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2） 同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3） 如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。
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补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

% K8 R( q# T! s1 Z. \* y最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。
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当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
5 i4 M' x2 H0 O- Z2 _April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表


2 [% A! A1 U# x佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

: d' B1 n9 Z' v$ O- U由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
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' f# J1 n: }4 B6 V3 W0 |" D让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin

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所谓“越辨越明”啊。
楼主。
老杨。

松杉

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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