說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
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小猪豆豆

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
3 V) [$ Z4 r; x; H学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
, z* U* r/ c% `. r# N9 L0 S楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait,  see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由 冷眼看世界 于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

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酸葡萄

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人

悦耳的鸟

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan

仁者见仁，智者见智。 北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

    http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp
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2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm
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; b' B8 K, _" |) I* Q3 z- w9 M3)   Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness
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; h$ [( |8 |+ `$ b9 _. L" v      http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
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yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表

看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

, V0 f) k" m/ y- A. w% [' M$ t" i还有一项就是：

+ d* k, G+ u' H' O. h' j0 H4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

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6 }5 U* B" Z# {! q! g$ x3 a2 o就我的经验， 各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜， 便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表

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还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
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Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE ! Y" Q" r( B, T5 u! ^) K% i4 }
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport $ G, q( F$ W8 N	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE - j# v& O% S7 `2 x7 v. ~; u* B. ^; \
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & ~% S, q' e% p) g* W5 n2 {8 t
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 6 A# Y2 r" w( `, q	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 6 N5 S9 R" E# U* j% H1 P2 B	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid   R: F2 p$ P4 M7 r	• 1996 Toyota Corolla
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited : v" F: ?' a1 M. N  f0 e9 W	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ( x+ o3 ~! N. {- }) `# _, k
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE	• 1996 Toyota T-100
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 7 L2 h  A' V* \4 W* h$ |7 h	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST " z4 F0 q" `4 S3 c0 ]
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited % w" w* ]0 s  W9 L" f" @2 n	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited - z; Q/ Q# W2 R; |9 Q
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX 0 w; h8 o$ X5 C4 F' x" p
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE " c5 H8 M  `- l: }+ z	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 4 E$ S4 y3 I2 h
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1996 Toyota Tercel
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2006 Toyota Tundra	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT ; C( k) z" Y  [# D# D
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS & _& B: e4 U/ S& e4 N	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma . z2 e0 B8 B/ [$ `
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner
• 2006 Toyota Prius ! L" y. e/ A7 X6 R	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota Pickup
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring : q* {, r$ _, X7 d) U: D	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma - u" b1 U% J* Y4 j# x	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 8 {! H7 t4 x. }" l! p. i	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited " D+ G' X) {: z, L	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 4 e7 K( r' m; x% ^0 I$ S	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 % O8 W, M7 U& b4 N" S  |
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX ! e" ]) c6 ]$ \+ @( m! r2 ?: i% ^0 O
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited % L- ^( _. }* Y* \6 r# o. u! T	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 C) }, }9 u6 c3 ?. c1 [7 T3 D# K
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 9 \& ]! T8 N% z5 M* s: D	• 1995 Toyota Tercel
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 4 u# V2 i- U) k, W- \
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " @/ z* d; }* ^/ v	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Tundra	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE ( h# @) F1 ]) B8 b* r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS , \" T7 |/ B, s3 @# Z	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX * {: ]& w! ]8 e* D
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 : c  u" ]6 R: R; l1 i2 U8 G	• 1995 Toyota T-100 ( X; Y/ `; @6 ~6 l: _9 {' Z5 Y
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited 5 [  b7 N0 ~2 ~! [	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma : m$ ?# h# M1 V3 \6 D8 Y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota Camry " n( p; j8 I2 a' ?$ d	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 / X; ?3 M) `' y6 M1 X) i- u/ F
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring # Q( B3 o6 E8 }; _  ^	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 0 b8 H: p2 t; U4 Y# Q	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX 0 v+ @  q: u5 f
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 4 G" K+ r$ Y6 z4 i# M9 K& d	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 1 |* Z% E* z$ }4 a4 Z- j
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma " p4 o3 l+ c" ^( R	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 6 Y* O' [9 K6 F7 s; ]
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 5 a6 T8 ?$ V9 }! P$ o# o. t4 f3 O
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE ) U( b' o! T" R# L6 d! o
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 e/ {7 i2 g: M  r4 j	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 {3 O& o) X, h) C/ Z5 D
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 0 j: ]5 L9 ~7 e4 r2 J5 R
• 2005 Toyota RAV4	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ( K3 |! C' {" L) R9 W	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . m( J, r- P, x, J
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 1 p2 g3 m* v6 M6 y# V; O2 W	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE ; v3 o7 D. g2 V/ }, F. q	• 1994 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton % ]6 E+ K+ ~9 g9 Q3 l1 u" _/ a  b
• 2005 Toyota Highlander	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE 1 x6 P% F: V% U" T) O
• 2005 Toyota Prius + P$ `5 i, h# _, S) i& c! a* y	• 1993 Toyota Corolla : C8 E3 s% A9 E/ M( h0 v, T
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE ' ~  ~/ O7 j3 M/ E6 A	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton : M4 X& X6 F$ n2 i% j) W% k
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE % O6 ?8 n/ d, U# A  n8 ~	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ) l8 R4 m" ~( Z2 g9 F1 M, S	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX $ S3 Z& }' {' o' h6 v" d) G( V: d
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 3 U) y7 t3 ?3 ~+ l/ u1 b( f	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 6 p2 x0 W0 E5 e/ W8 Y
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 5 B( J' Y! X9 M- F	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser / \+ J0 ?9 J/ p# ~: e; Q& f8 o6 {
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE : {; A5 T3 @3 t, H( y, U) O* \4 |	• 1993 Toyota T-100 7 r+ @+ a" w- Z4 A/ s5 x7 s. z' X
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE , J4 R/ K* w3 j; N6 M* ]+ Y' w	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE ' a0 C+ Q# E. q9 k4 K' m
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1993 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Prius	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE ( t: q; G; [! I3 n
• 2004 Toyota Tundra	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 * \$ g1 d1 I$ f# N( b; ~
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 7 g* _  S% i( u$ X; d	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE ' V8 b; M- Q; s9 j2 l! ^$ `8 ~; ?	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 8 z4 R/ i1 \8 C0 p	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ( R% g6 }' F* l	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 2 \" `& a5 D7 C8 ]7 L3 A" h3 }
• 2004 Toyota Highlander # Y1 Q1 N/ ]5 z0 o# [	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 0 k$ L+ g, [$ s
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 7 H4 ^& H9 Y  W, {+ ~
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota MR2
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 }. J6 C( l  r& X% l$ R	• 1992 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 0 q1 j! L& M3 {6 g' \	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 3 z: d) `/ H$ d' \6 c
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 2 i, @* N! k' }" k1 O	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 : j4 ~9 V& [9 D3 \: b, o$ ~	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ( ~/ t! R! i3 q6 t
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 1 p% |4 }  W* S2 J( k1 s
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE + u: M7 t8 f0 N7 P	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT ! s' u8 H7 }1 ?0 v	• 1991 Toyota Camry
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2003 Toyota Highlander * e% f  h6 ?+ X5 Z7 e( R( i  o	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 9 T* J: N; j4 H( e
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2003 Toyota Tundra * L+ L1 l5 K; r+ |& i	• 1991 Toyota MR2 . D( a( V: D) G6 w, u9 N
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 1 K9 Z/ M! g+ I: H
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ; `; X/ Z' R, I/ S5 L; a0 Z
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE & e4 y- V6 ]6 |1 j/ f0 L- L7 J	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 3 y- w( @) j! ]" K
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac * w: \8 E( r# \+ F/ u
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE   k/ ^% Q" ^+ v	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 0 Y2 c) r# V, \. v9 C; v! _: O! Q	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1990 Toyota Pickup % E5 ^' z  A- o( z* W2 K9 y6 V
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 6 K# n3 a) K  o	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE + ]1 T3 {7 o( e" x8 E1 V+ f
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE 6 l  h* W/ D5 D: s6 n3 J* W	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited   ~7 F2 t6 v( z6 P) J- D& T	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT   O! y8 }; v4 e! r- [. C0 b
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT ! h5 T" ^4 ~7 e5 n" R1 B. M4 T2 X	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base ( a: B" l( h3 {& m4 E' j+ L; j
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1990 Toyota Camry
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S # @' L6 S1 p# C, X	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST
• 2002 Toyota Highlander	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 I6 n9 l& F4 @  S7 ]* [	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS & G0 r$ s/ q4 w
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser # `- N5 t; j/ K, A0 j7 X
• 2002 Toyota Prius / Y! ?0 D3 J- `0 h4 z	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton   L) F7 p( X* d8 A  E
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX ! f2 _3 N' |9 h7 A
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS - `8 ]4 h! a7 e0 _6 H	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac ! @& h, |  M/ S, E+ c5 \* B
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma	• 1990 Toyota Tercel . _" }: V' B, |3 g
• 2002 Toyota Tundra	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 7 m) s1 S' }9 ?* n' }8 D* N2 s& r' y
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac $ s/ i3 W! W  d/ u5 o# F' ^# u
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 0 @8 t1 S! q4 I! C	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base $ o) s+ ^, t4 f+ ?! X' U  w5 _
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser & ]7 P4 f0 J, M& K+ K0 N+ A
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE : r4 I6 G) e" m  m7 P, |( _	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE - \3 f8 L4 d( y; A  `+ n
• 2001 Toyota Prius	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX & @# M% A1 U- o  V
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma # Y  N8 P3 B. B* D! t	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2001 Toyota Tundra	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 8 l6 l  y0 P" l) n* h8 ~6 T# ]) t	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX # R9 g3 h" m+ R- M
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited % |. v2 }4 ?& C) p  p	• 1989 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : q9 ], i1 M( N1 ], y& w5 I	• 1989 Toyota Tercel
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE : ~, }/ V0 ~( m  |	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 1 O3 a, Y  W* A7 c9 n) h	• 1989 Toyota Pickup
• 2001 Toyota ECHO	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger - G1 n8 Z6 e  X! F. v2 w
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * y- a! T; F: _8 w* V* ^2 v) y# s	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 1 s3 d) {7 F0 |/ @7 o
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX + m; G' Q6 y, W4 w& J
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S	• 1988 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ! ~6 J: }. J9 u9 d" {
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 0 [' e6 V: c5 d* O; d: K$ Y
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 9 }4 e5 L/ r) {3 s% N6 @+ y- Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2001 Toyota Highlander	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited ) q' c3 ]6 n% l# g. R6 ~! O+ k, N	• 1988 Toyota Van DX
• 2000 Toyota ECHO	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger - B3 l+ `& j- o3 s! y
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ! [. v0 f! P+ F. p9 A+ d' y
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE 9 P$ j  Z6 g4 J: j6 G
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE ' W6 H+ P" F' i	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 2000 Toyota RAV4	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser + b* A/ U' U- k. I; p+ O8 a
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 H/ M9 Y% I# p. e	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ) Z) F4 O  g" k
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 4 S; a. ~$ e: [) w1 x3 L. q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 2 o# u3 V; O8 R  W- s. e9 j8 I: W	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 0 z5 n  S) j- [0 {: u4 M0 T) r	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara " {2 P- W# L; L# f- y$ c! k' L	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 - U+ Z$ K9 `8 W( k9 c+ o
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited # u* m+ A- s) p& J	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 7 N' b3 r# K$ J* Z
• 2000 Toyota Tundra	• 1988 Toyota Van LE
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS 1 B' M5 A) U2 r	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE & w1 W7 P( [$ i+ A8 d1 A  K3 B	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 " q8 l) F' r5 I  M' r: Y& ~3 Q3 Q
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited . H( r5 c- b6 K8 C	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner	• 1987 Toyota Van DX * B/ ]; }" i8 Z# n  v, n  p
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 3 R: Y3 q6 J4 s& _4 o% U	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window ) A+ w# s4 {8 _7 o* D7 c) t
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE + G1 A  y8 }. I  a- ]% B3 N	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX % d6 H" ~. ?; M& |+ m: F' @
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 0 |6 p- o7 C7 Z0 }6 u- G	• 1987 Toyota Tercel
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE   L2 ?! G% N& f9 W6 v	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 7 z" g' q: N7 s9 U: K
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 [4 ~& c% n) w% W0 [5 Y( @	• 1987 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE / f, U9 F& P; {0 t) U: g	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 0 I4 w: Q. a* [- }
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1986 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser $ L% v& J" Z0 r6 E4 h0 A
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 % S5 ?4 J7 J/ ?" J3 u8 G, [( w	• 1986 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window ) G8 g. n" d  {) d: I: e
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE + i6 f, @; _2 Y* V' q  ]. G	• 1985 Toyota Van   J3 H0 s2 G# @$ {( ~6 h3 |
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE 5 f8 N2 M$ Z' G/ x" K7 x- v6 l	• 1985 Toyota Van LE ( N4 s1 ]2 ]' Q+ s% q. F0 V
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1985 Toyota Van DX   J, f2 @. `3 m% c0 o8 |
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser , u0 \) h' p9 K$ c* N
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1984 Toyota Van DX - T; K. x* o6 T. N6 B& S( c, v
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE - D' H+ `7 i/ H! A- x) M! y	• 1984 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE - t% F) c( B7 Z	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE ( I  `" z6 o$ G* |	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 6 d' t) B% o$ E$ @" K
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS ) _2 v+ j: l$ }& [( `7 P	• 1984 Toyota Van
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner , F7 n" ?0 N1 _5 p1 ]% Y	• 1984 Toyota Van LE
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE & {9 ~/ L0 a% B	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX # n2 X- g' ~4 i# X	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX   \5 G& y$ @8 g$ Z: I3 ^9 P' n
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE " d9 F0 P7 Y3 Y% L( o$ y	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE % o5 C, S1 ?7 P1 @8 @$ k0 }% K, E
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1983 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ) f- q7 b" @1 E* Z' X7 A
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 8 m; W. S0 C; q& ]' Q) G2 A% t6 T	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 9 h1 y( i; X* ^
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ' R7 E, T+ A3 \8 ?	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 6 N$ b( x2 z, P
• 1998 Toyota T-100 / P7 L. G' l2 F$ i+ e	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser   T2 m: ]' S/ U! q
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited   h# o: R" F1 Y$ b$ Y( s7 n) }	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 8 k8 ~8 q  m! P
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE ; Z# O" S( _; I; s	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX . Y1 V7 d+ A' B7 Q- ]
• 1998 Toyota RAV4	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 3 K* n' [, w& T& w$ M. F	• 1982 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX 7 d/ e1 \+ c9 C$ L0 n/ K	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma	• 1981 Toyota Tercel - `5 `1 n2 \; ]) t' |9 @5 p
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS ! w4 v) G/ m6 i6 O2 {) Y! g	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 . C' x" G& V( M; y( C" x# z! u9 g
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota T-100 * i, e; w. H7 e9 i8 w" ~	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX 9 A) D, V; Z, M, j9 t# Z
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ; x& p$ O3 i$ R8 G" i
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE ( X, ?, Q' [5 \! T7 ]$ U	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla ( i! a% y5 w- k# X! C) a( E
• 1997 Toyota Corolla	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 N  ^2 A5 C. L7 [1 A, f0 k5 E	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 0 u7 O) t* N. }4 Q3 k
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 0 J) x' i4 l9 T0 D! t* }
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE 7 o7 n! E( R9 x' h$ W	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST : _) @: _) L: [: `( p# \/ [3 f
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE ! y) ^7 I1 }2 x% T# m% R	• 1980 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 3 U  G9 j& E( ~: F' ?/ G: \/ H	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : p3 H! k4 i# K& }

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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3 A; \6 f7 X  k1 ]" p1 u9 z& l如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
) s3 T9 V* J2 ^7 ?2 hToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
/ m) l5 S4 W' `3 v$ W( I• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2） 同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
: W' Y" I- i) S0 A3） 如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

3 U  j$ I6 A3 k# x" C; O7 ?最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。
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2 x5 ]5 t! c: g5 L) }- w' K0 ?/ ~当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。
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作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
) A, k) |* k- y8 p* KApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表


! l; }/ Q# w! m$ ^# J  i佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
' k% j0 l2 v" J7 v+ f7 {
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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2 z7 R6 T$ U* s* \* r: u7 X1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
- m/ X) U& Q1 b) t2） 同 ...

8 D4 H0 _* r* A/ ?) k) {让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin

实用的好帖
+ S! m" a* \2 o8 P3 X所谓“越辨越明”啊。
- c" {6 a, c9 v4 f& ?' u1 O 楼主。
. V& _% H$ h$ W" I* }4 t  S 老杨。

松杉

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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