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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.! g8 i' o7 ?1 f3 j% o. W9 h: ~

6 r' G2 V6 w/ u4 JTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ' u3 O# S% H3 v1 U5 w

7 D5 W5 W) c6 B' p* p" L& ZThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. . q) A/ \- w" T3 G9 H" p

  d6 I4 D! j3 |4 Q8 {  ]$ m1 LNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller., G5 x5 w1 y* ]2 h: D

1 w2 o6 I( x/ V" Y) u2 STD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.6 q8 \$ [7 z( I: x/ ]

* a) `- v# a8 K3 k5 i, |"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. * {! Q* y7 e7 g) o
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ( s/ S5 ^/ r/ l+ S. y6 X& F
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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7 {! W$ R; ]! w, m$ E( t9 pTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
. |# ?; |" g$ M& a6 f 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 $ w' z6 L* o. \: g
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

! i- a, u6 C; j5 m' q" h很多人都回学校深造去了
2 l/ u8 l, k: M4 I$ h嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta! V& e6 q$ \' \& {( D" {
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its  l( _& r* _( _6 N, n! g
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
' _5 V' G% ^. Q1 g; t- Lare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to% e$ Z% j% C3 H$ Q2 }
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household# @3 ^3 Y" h, Q/ m
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided1 V: H7 ?! w- T5 ~. U
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,: D, o+ N0 o) O" M; p7 N8 G
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
. u! z$ s1 c5 l7 W$ z8 ?may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
) u' b1 D  m" g1 E% Epace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed3 D$ p1 ~( G& d; r! x
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
$ X" W  q% H  B) A; L! qto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year& v0 T" p) l& G9 l6 k6 i) d8 X
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
. m/ M! f2 ~- _' l! D( _/ Q9 q! P30,000 new households will form in the province during' q+ G0 J. ]# R) z, }
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.1 H7 A6 h9 m1 W+ W5 Z* r9 N, K
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
# S: o4 w+ F+ Dhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%' a* X8 f" x/ A) z: \
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta0 X4 m1 ]9 ]9 {2 s4 H6 f# J5 E
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
# q7 n* b2 @6 t+ h2 R! Rhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals$ u5 Q. B/ J, x
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
  b, o% ^  Z" s5 l. t2 msales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
9 D: h" s- K: O* d8 M8 Lclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
7 [' j5 O$ k1 y$ H! q3 zexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of6 ]4 P$ u2 p0 S" C6 X; Q: P
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
2 f; l; D5 }7 Y2 X3 z. psales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
1 P1 X1 R* u( S" vbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in- [+ x3 G8 s( g# `. ?$ `
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
1 z9 c6 g3 o6 M5 `3 @- [unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; @3 [1 K6 Z  f1 y
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
+ r$ |) O6 _. irecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 ?& k! k9 b) G4 Gresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
( J  k) ^( }5 X6 P6 F1 Imajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s& N7 a% t) g2 {+ i8 u, s$ V
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.) s1 k$ h0 I  K# M7 `# C- n
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
. w: T9 D5 e3 e+ ]* Mhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
; c* y5 t* U. }5 j# Krelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale7 ?, p! v4 `/ g+ s$ i
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
2 U' Q  i2 \; @: ?6 s$ zthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners  Z3 @$ ~3 b( K5 l: A) @( p
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.% q0 A- U# y+ a6 f; H
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average. A% x9 |3 S5 Z  g* A
resale price in February is evidence that past prices0 a) L" V, \! |: e: K& C$ Z
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove( V' A. O0 r1 ]5 b
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 E5 A; e$ l( J4 L' y
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
2 R; E4 S) a+ V/ o# F  AAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
7 e6 l9 E/ z8 j: u# q3 G+ TAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. + A% r+ ~( p% d1 i
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子8 h$ V$ [$ R' O5 C0 \; _. u( A" r
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments4 b6 u/ h" T, k

$ B6 x+ v# E9 s  ?' s[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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