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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞% ?2 S- F, H* I! e
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
$ m( \6 l% H' ~Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
+ I8 s, S$ ~* X9 }/ A% A4 y(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).5 m  A% M7 }5 u& L
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:3 T" R  x+ i5 q
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?* P. k9 \& q+ d! M! X
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:: O, ]; {4 I% O/ J! z+ @# R
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
4 X# x$ I8 n( b, EShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,' j) n/ {2 |6 M
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,5 U* ]' B  E3 b* |  S+ u
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
% a9 E9 h( o7 UAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
+ O0 }6 u3 h! P0 s# T, m- y" R+ tHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection2 d5 G- ~* x6 `7 Q) Y* I
if we demand He leave us alone?"( u6 M" y" O) a$ n( \+ f1 s% r
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;( h2 u3 N/ Q$ F+ v* x" u' g
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校," _- z! w3 \* h, ], O% Q
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
$ W9 _0 b' ~- a8 Z+ P2 E# i# ~" @: t, z上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。9 v, b# J+ i. D3 F7 A
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
! y  [- {: d6 j# `6 Y又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』/ W( O8 F& `8 U& {+ i: i: s

  B; x! }, T* S- WIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.( T& P# l* W6 M. V2 E$ ^
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,' K/ ~. z* D2 s! F5 X  S
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our, b9 [5 d7 Y; a" p  Y' e( [
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
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1 }0 u/ d( V$ A, |) \: ^the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,, ^7 u4 p1 i3 O2 E7 S& |
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
0 U. b. \: N9 v8 `. T- L! G$ y- t看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
( o7 s+ J( L, e我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
8 g, q8 K6 O* _9 D(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
! X7 A. d! L, }- D$ L9 V最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
0 \) T1 e9 G: G5 \2 t& U. V要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。+ G  m& X. x+ L  G3 z4 C
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children% ^8 o; I( s0 v$ D6 E
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped/ B8 B3 r" x( R! O6 p5 P9 Z4 ]
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
% K% p+ I9 N" D! |/ H6 x' O3 ~suicide)5 a2 m9 D  t4 G( }. ^& j/ V0 V
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
0 C8 n# S4 u7 e# w3 t然後Benjamin Spock博士說," \% H' @7 n1 N, ?* y/ y" _3 H4 l
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,* }/ m% J; i* _: W6 G" p
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊$ T$ c* h6 S) x# g- c7 l' s+ j
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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( b% O% U- K! u' B+ ~Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our8 l( l! f3 }$ c4 @2 o" h5 _& Y# g
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
6 d8 C( g9 p  \in this school better touch a student when they misbehave' a; @4 S6 s. T( v. R4 Q9 `
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
2 L8 \. `5 f3 [and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
7 F- g" ~4 G$ H7 J3 \# \# Gbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,( t/ y9 I" E7 ~0 o" O+ e
etc.). And we said OK.
+ [  ~4 [0 w( R4 y+ J3 }$ i% h3 h然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
% Z, u2 h  S% ?( S% j! p老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
$ d; C* M6 S, r5 e4 H教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
& ?2 T' x/ t1 @( o* K9 v更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),# O, G0 S# G, @8 Q! ?: ^
而大家同意了。
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6 x$ M' o6 m5 IThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,4 W# B  o: K$ E9 }* a" C* h' L
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
: B' U! J. Q; Q$ r' z9 @$ [Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys/ D4 n+ Q: g8 J& D( Z
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms8 _! R9 V! o( N3 K# p2 l
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
# ^$ m7 p( p; g: D7 Gand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we. w( D  J% K: V
said OK.+ I* N+ g1 ?: D& P. o6 Y  e
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,3 k( t% p8 i/ U, w  ^, _( W1 o
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
6 _$ G7 v5 z0 _( `" F' d' q然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,! O5 o+ R* r" J! K
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,+ O! G# c; W7 n* F( X
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道  [- `; F1 c* X
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。! h9 l/ v* \" t) \) H9 z0 Z
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* Q7 c0 x: ?) z; Z9 XThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter$ Q. k$ I( Y$ I5 ]1 n2 w
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,& q3 W) g/ h4 z: X
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,! N7 T/ O; a8 S4 m" _5 x& w) }
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
. ?& h. H3 U' |8 b5 x! M: h然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,; [9 C* v( `' s1 c5 h
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,2 E! C8 Y1 ]! d
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >0 I$ q/ z. r% v( ~7 {3 p4 ^
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women) Z1 C% X  ?& s) w  d/ _5 U  N
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
2 a5 m: }8 y- w6 ~. D2 u( Zof the female body. And we said OK.: x- |+ m) j' ]! [
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
9 t$ B( L( i& N* U稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。; c6 x6 Y5 \% M
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' p: U# f' W. V1 t& Z$ GAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
; z3 |9 i8 I7 m# \. w: N" npublished pictures of nude children and then further again
% I" ^( o" ]4 j1 v; ]0 {by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
" U0 Z) L5 B. z0 b. u* s+ G4 `1 rthey're entitled to free speech.
1 A, w% x/ H+ z$ V4 z  T2 g然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
, I/ V* r$ L" c2 `: w7 {# C甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
; H) R2 c" B) {$ H- g7 S他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies7 j4 d) N. c& d6 H4 E: O
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music  K& k' [* x5 l" V! D
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.: v) l% r, G( f
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
( X; q; M2 j3 |1 P% Bnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
6 N) o" x5 s( y. M! j3 \然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、+ a+ m' M' |' C. k
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
$ w; s: p9 E$ W0 e) g謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:& j& i3 u5 P7 f. _
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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' V7 E% W) ^) b7 ONow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
8 P, t# B* G* z% }+ ^why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them2 e2 q! Q1 `2 m# ^; [5 \  T% S1 I% w
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,. r. Z3 m- `! y$ ^( P/ s
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
7 ~: ^, F1 n+ Y+ R9 XI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
4 d2 v+ r- i  ~' r$ L2 ~如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
- r3 T, \1 o# T為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?5 Z9 D% a" l1 r$ D
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
+ w! n; A% y$ L  Z8 L+ u假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
/ K8 c% s4 Q7 C* a5 X我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder4 z: v3 S# l( D! z' D
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers7 R$ V  b( E, q& R
say, but question what the Bible says.. d4 t& |' v0 N* f9 v& S+ K
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。8 x% |+ v* Y( ?7 d% o/ E  _
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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/ V2 s$ ~( Q4 K- F+ S8 j, `% b# UFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
4 w% d2 u, F! |& P4 mwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,6 O5 `$ V) A" r
people think twice about sharing.
1 O# y* t; @% }- ]( Y實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
3 W. B, F8 J5 t% z* d4 k但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
( \- e; O, T* Y, g人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。  l9 F3 h: n" E+ C5 D; `4 b
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
" ^2 K* ?7 [1 G0 o) `/ Gthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
$ l1 a  y# n) n- Lin the school and workplace.
! M. Y* U7 l1 [( x5 W% B; b+ W; L實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章9 d' g% @4 z* W
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;, B& O9 g0 a& J. h
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?( ~& e2 t3 _8 d- k0 ]2 n3 L
你笑了嗎?
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/ `9 U* L- t3 O* z  C) uFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it9 F, [3 S4 L% E$ Y
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,' `" s6 J) D3 H" d2 f
or what they WILL think of you for sending it., s$ |* h6 b' V# L8 ]+ a/ g
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
4 X9 Y- @0 y! fthan what God thinks of us.2 u, J% }8 d' L
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
: c6 _2 H0 g# g8 r因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,5 U: }& H+ X4 [8 M* h
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
1 x7 J6 W1 ~2 c可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,9 N6 q' U9 E0 P9 v5 a' b
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...) j" o7 L  h# C0 Y- |" F0 f$ p" ~2 ]
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't  |* d) h" U5 I. z- s+ u& l
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
3 z5 g8 ^( o, B- C* {. P2 v, p把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
* j1 M/ n1 e  j1 T& l0 q0 U若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
  ^6 @& u$ O- U0 b; P. M. `但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
/ S0 J/ v( t# M& F$ x你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。6 U& b; V7 c, \' t! n, E
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
. `( W- p! d2 ^& a2 E有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。$ I( ]/ T6 L4 `5 a) P6 U
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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