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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞/ t) f6 r( T) X, B9 ?6 c/ c
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
# |6 p9 K9 h3 ~/ aClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
/ V7 o. |! f8 m, s* r, q/ y(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).* r" B% j' z* i9 Y( {
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
6 b( g, U9 E: y! a3 ~, C! B: G+ Z% G上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
; ^6 M* h. k( t* a3 l7 f" w% q; J她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:( `. ^! g. w% e% i

6 ]( Y( {& L6 w* rAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
7 U% f4 c9 S* h1 J1 U2 I; mShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,! e! U7 B) v# ?" J, }8 V- u3 c
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
2 e: x8 Q) P( W# c8 [/ H0 P6 }to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
" J7 W: t7 s1 o; I( qAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
; n2 R0 v+ d' C' q3 {$ X) BHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection6 s: H! b$ Z- C9 ?$ E7 }0 W+ ^' S
if we demand He leave us alone?"
2 x' w, `; h3 e% l, Y, x『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
- d5 r+ o) p+ A$ X1 D只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
" I( W/ w/ J# Y不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
5 C) `+ @7 n+ g上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
0 e5 g9 A- P( w) A2 t9 `$ X我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
+ T4 Z- e$ C5 U& E  i7 ?又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
/ A4 O7 u- i1 v2 G) r( @2 J* II think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
* W/ k! @+ ~) `0 ~* S% wher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our, l$ o/ V/ Y& E- p# i
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in% y; [+ S$ o. y! ?- P
school...  Z4 B$ @0 t# ?, A2 H7 i" ^" N/ T
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,1 T1 c; s3 B, j' J- h" `; l
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.* J9 c& f  h- e' N4 z& T  M
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,( F6 O. S- |' X3 q& b) t
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士4 _, y( U7 j9 T7 u2 i
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說," z! |( w4 v) q' |
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
# k  C0 I+ ~0 E. r/ J0 }8 N: i要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。4 q7 |) w) X9 U) s+ C7 x
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
5 K4 c: d; U) `( u9 u# y8 Zwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped8 J% g  X+ z3 z9 T2 c1 H
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
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We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
! E  p/ A1 Y) ]/ {2 a然後Benjamin Spock博士說,. s$ s. L. B! L+ X: g" B
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,% ]% m9 i; A# W5 a, P+ W* U
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
( {" D" |- s0 l/ c1 A, F3 r' W  G( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。4 e7 j( a" {% Y3 K( ~7 j
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our- v  w' [- d( ?$ X
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member8 W7 Y$ I1 O9 A8 g
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
- V; q; g" a0 G0 l% v  y& ibecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
" m0 X  f- [! M8 |and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
2 f! X! }: X! Z% Ubetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,. ^) s1 P6 d/ t9 Z0 o
etc.). And we said OK.
) L% l/ B# i) T" Z然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
4 S9 `- K' w6 p% ?3 {老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
5 Z& n: h- X" H7 \9 ?; v" {教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
& G+ T1 G: `4 L更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
$ V, K2 q0 j* a% i$ |+ ]6 E而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
$ ~) t2 o( D* I7 Vand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.! j; f/ M  H; \4 I
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys( t) q) O/ d; G
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms5 ~/ h) J8 K% Y9 p+ g* n
they want so they can have all the fun they desire," |1 q0 k; r* x) ^- d
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
9 e* ^& T( x& ~! |3 d9 i% }said OK.
& F0 S9 ^, F6 @8 U: E& f( f; o然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
& O5 v/ B* l& j甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
5 P5 ]0 D7 R3 P& \, n& [然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,: d1 B$ j- I& B$ [. x1 S9 }! v
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,5 I9 i( q' E# Y  b2 k. G' \' O
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道- v* K# e0 E' q1 O8 H) U7 n! k4 p
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
5 n1 @- `8 |; o. U; q9 E0 w. ywhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
) M, c; j" }: M% m" R0 twe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,- z; L( s1 h4 ~, r4 B1 ^, `9 T* T
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
: a" q  D5 O) O/ C然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
! m! h+ O8 E. |) m8 d1 N1 l只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,: H2 W9 E( |: E7 w6 y- h
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >( O7 a0 S6 X+ V1 t7 A  A" B
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women4 c# d! K6 o, h! |3 ^
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty4 u4 J. H' z" D/ V" ?
of the female body. And we said OK.( M! }2 `* I9 K* r
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,8 G7 s2 k- K% ?
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。* y; r. ]' w* A1 c4 y5 T2 H5 C1 W5 ~0 m

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2 A) n" _& F. F& w$ sAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
  t( a3 y) y1 t3 a$ J" h  bpublished pictures of nude children and then further again$ e: S! v, ]1 S/ y1 O0 Y
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,+ H. Z' h/ z' O9 v
they're entitled to free speech.& O2 J9 i% ?/ v4 y
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,/ q5 U: s4 Y" a3 `2 v% m
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,2 g+ X) ~$ M; b0 y& O" Q
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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( T; @" B$ b3 z; W4 I! _Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies7 \5 f1 l8 A2 }. s4 _+ U  D1 B5 p
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
4 z! E* m, k' X& d" _1 ?that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
1 a1 w$ t+ o7 E5 I6 k% y4 q* h/ x- \And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
9 x; ~% m5 E+ o7 lnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
) w+ D0 |" y" s  n$ c然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
- ~0 l( ]& }3 b3 H# u6 E/ X不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、9 n2 C( |! f( T& ~) X- C
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:; ]& e( o6 _- X6 Z6 |+ G
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。# F8 |6 ?! D' M% j- ~

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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,4 m: k8 p7 p5 V9 ~- u6 M* U
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
+ o9 u: O! v( [3 Yto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
1 {, `4 _0 y3 V) A; e+ Zif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.3 ^  }, q0 l0 _; Y! E; W
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."! x! G( K' `/ A9 g; ~2 {
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
; M8 I1 a" u8 ^3 b為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
; C- H/ m$ ?7 l6 }5 Z) a為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
/ M! i" k; a+ Y' I/ k( K6 Z2 H假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。$ G+ |" P% ~7 v9 V- h
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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6 ]  h" u* ~" L- \5 {Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
' o" z0 P+ m4 F1 Swhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
. h5 w# B' ?/ l4 ~* C( e$ Tsay, but question what the Bible says.! I* \9 G$ Z' ?$ K3 G% X$ m3 A
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
% T2 W: o1 L2 N0 r4 y+ k實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
1 z" R; {* c- Y7 D! D! u2 M7 g5 Uwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,. ]* ?  C% n2 }0 u
people think twice about sharing.
) H. e3 {/ X( s0 w1 I實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
5 N: D5 W$ t% v但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
2 x0 X# U7 x1 V2 _& {. q人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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; \! n5 V9 w/ Q7 wFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely  W3 }1 n7 o: W" H9 ~
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed- g! H7 I& l/ j5 E
in the school and workplace.  L  ?' O8 _. t( ]
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章9 @/ R) ]- R/ j% h0 O3 N: a
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
4 g" F2 n' p+ I+ I' Z而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。3 F2 v: H8 c1 X, o8 z  i

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Are you laughing?
4 a# }: P" |2 C你笑了嗎?" \8 _2 j7 N7 m5 [0 Y; j
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
* A6 S+ q' t5 z! H) L; m8 h2 h' hto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
1 [7 {6 c' Q/ Kor what they WILL think of you for sending it.
' Q# ^# H4 Q, A  pFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
! _8 Z+ ?6 f. xthan what God thinks of us.& q! h$ z' j- L% U, p/ ]' L
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,: q/ C+ G, b  ]) k. z
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
8 y1 o. C7 T. x) _或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
8 F- T$ p- x2 I; F( {7 A+ h可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
7 [0 Q2 Q4 s/ q而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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; {# a. K3 m5 U+ O9 t( E4 b* t( S6 aPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...3 A' n2 w  O- G5 O/ U
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
3 {% F0 U  }( Q+ Q3 bsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!  j" K: n! t' G+ r3 u) e
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話: O1 Y0 C0 B: o" r
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
& `1 Q0 i  L. ~9 {但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,$ b/ k6 k) \: F! v) L2 h* _: |0 \
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.3 E" C; `$ W, I& m# D

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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
  C& X8 S4 [; f  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶2 [7 Z# Y/ A- V* n
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。" r7 Y( Y1 Z" g
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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6 _4 z! B8 C; X$ H$ b所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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& @3 f+ s8 b4 S& e社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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