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合同工和正式工,如果最后收入相等,工资比例应该是多少?

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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:19 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
summer_tina 发表于 2013-3-14 17:10
, B% x9 [( Q* \2 d9 x嗯,很多牛人。的确是。2 t* d4 A% c5 m9 V. S5 h
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当然,也有混的啦
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我看到的合同工还都有些本事,大小之分,混子还没看到过。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-14 21:31
2 e5 j  j8 l1 ~% \4 x7 c- xmy landlord's wife, she is a contractor( PDMS designer) in an engineering company, pay is very good, ...
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那么你是没有试用期吗?
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:51 | 显示全部楼层
Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel insurance* u8 o. i6 }* E1 P
card, if I visit china, US, cover accident. My medicine is 100% cover, I got them. the glasses $250, sate shoe, $150, message $500/year, foot pads, $400, clean teeth and filled, 100% cover, since tomorrow,
  o" @! S2 L2 b6 |# I0 t' i+ a3 MI will enjoy my benefits, I select the Sunday overtime. Normally, 3 months, but I worked 1 week, they gave9 z! |5 w2 i2 P" T. R
me these card, filled RRSP form, I never ask them, interview, I only ask wage, other I didn't ask.About low EQ
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:58 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-14 08:32 4 S$ R  c- }1 O6 ]9 L4 @6 z
还有心态,运气。而往往心态会影响运气。( Q: f$ m( q0 n* `' a6 x) U
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你这里说的能力,不光是技能方面的能力,更重要的是EQ的能力 ...

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鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:33 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 17:51
: A& M/ S6 a4 \9 R: TNow I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel in ...
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其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:43 | 显示全部楼层
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 18:33 1 V! t9 |, t7 t! r; D, \) H
其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.
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no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,2 Q* r" x  U4 h( z
I like vwry much, it is free, only RRSP reduce from my pay, employer pay 6%." t: I# k! j- J1 m& r
Tomorrow, I will do message, nothing pay, I show my benefit card, they take your NO,4 k. a# ^- h) v( W. S
ask insurance company pay, no me! 8 y) N. Z+ u1 d3 s4 E4 e
Why not? I go to Wal mart, $250 plus exam fees, all the insurance company pay!
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:13 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
自己做,啥都没有的路过!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:19 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 18:43 $ H! D0 [3 n# f9 ]1 H' p
no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,/ ^' d4 @" Z2 x1 k! X
I like vwry much, it i ...

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; g* \6 |# Z4 p5 _) {# v; F/ j6 }Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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而employee把该到手的钱变成这些福利了,这不是强迫消费是什么?5 C3 e- A8 U+ a! A

, A$ _$ m: `) q& F象这些,给了我,我都不会去消费的,那换成钱,到自己口袋里,想怎么花就怎么花.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 6 E/ m- E  Q2 W2 [+ M9 c
你还是没有理解我的话.
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1 Z8 ]2 G6 V/ I! Y1 o$ IContrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

" L3 G* ]6 z5 i3 hclasses, every 2 years I must change, RRSP I buy it every year,  I every day eat medicine, clean teeth6 e7 B& J  W5 a( K; U
every 6 months, filled, I changed 6 teeth, teeth treat, expensive. message, facing I like to do. If i happened5 a# u7 X# i" ~8 e* V7 ~+ @! P
accident, my daughter will get compensation. no more charge me, I like. I enjoy.
( [$ Q7 d3 x8 }$ Q/ rIn the future, i would like to try a contractor position. Now, they need me, I keep this position.
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鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:14 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

% k6 L6 x) C, n* N: I; F7 U四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must pay by myself. I had heavy sick, on time eating medicine, keep to work, health is the more and more better.
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:32 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 9 ~# L5 j: @# K8 f# A
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...
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姐姐的这种情况,不适合做CONTRACTOR,真的!
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 21:15 | 显示全部楼层
my positions always are perm! my best position are in Wichita,KS, US, manufacturing engineer, in aerospace
  h$ {$ b- _4 N* uarea, because of I have not US greencard ,US citizen, I cann't work long term! In Houston, design engineer6 E+ E  d9 R2 z0 [3 R7 @% F2 \
a single office, for my daughter, I quited this good job, come back AB, driving a car about 4 days. Then,
. W0 W3 [3 W* c/ c5 m$ b' hcome in Ontario, picked up my daughter to Edmonton from Ontario. ! m9 L) M  r  j, _5 n
10 years ago, I was a labor in KUS canada, 12 hours shift, 6:00am to 6pm, or 6pm to 6am, after  6 months I moved to winsor, KUS closed down! In Windsor I started professional position.; P0 i% C; _% f  _$ |6 G" \- Q+ l8 P$ V
Now, I am the better than 10 years ago. passed many difficults, I still are health, happy, modern and young( look young)+ l3 y3 ^+ P7 ]3 t8 q# Z
Thanks! lovely small girl!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 23:31 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 $ {: I2 m) k: v0 s
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...
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我不年轻了.不过我每年花在看病吃药上,不到100加币.其实也很多年没看病了,连体检都不去.- P# A7 r/ X( ~4 c% P' h2 X* P- w

; u2 B. t& X# o$ Z5 m& H洗牙是回国再洗,我受不了这边的,洗一次牙,都要让你走两趟./ l1 D+ O. {7 }7 q+ f
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象你的身体情况,真不应该老换工作,每换一次工作,就得迎接新的挑战和压力.应该找一份比较轻松的工作.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 13:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
current benefits come from of 换工作, if there are no 挑战和压力, the company never hire me.
  }  k1 `9 i  J; H4 p: u6 II cann't show my experiences. Next step, they will train me to learn new software( 1 week), I will lose
0 L1 ?; z& l7 P3 i4 W. N  ?; Nthe good chance. Don't worried about 老年痴呆症. Life is in moving
9 S- J' R' p9 BTomorrow, I still work( overtime) 10 hours(7am-5pm), I will edit some programs and setting.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 量子风水 于 2013-3-16 14:57 编辑 % G8 I1 v) r# g& t9 I, D, A
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合同工与非合同工,是看自己的成熟程度。如果成熟程度高,又不等钱用,合同工是优于长工的。我公司的创办人之一,已经到退休年龄,他就是做contractor。他可能是三五个月都在世界各地旅游了,偶尔才回公司一次。他是远程办公,用网络通过安全卡来做测试。
+ Y% _0 d/ ^/ T* @$ Y# p我在卡城的同事,也是喜欢做contractor,他是‘从来没有在家闲上二个月的’,工资都不低于10万一年。( h; ?8 p# C) z% X* _, Z: \
这与他的职业性质有关,他是做C#之类高级程序研发,这种职业面宽。而我就学不了他,我的专业面窄,是不宜做contractor,只能先后senior engineer/lead努力,以后再图其他。
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:50 | 显示全部楼层
同时与marie一样,在专业领域有相似成功,也曾经长期单身的女性,但即有不同的处世方式,并且应用得成功,而且福泽下一代,这种类型的女性,还是值得佩服与学习。. n) C& i0 R# g( M5 o3 {
印象深的一次,是她家邻居有个冷气机,夏天时噪音很大。她不是去投诉人家,而是用想用一种和平的途径来解决纷争--显然,邻居并非有意,这是可以用和平方式解决的前提。这样做当然成功,邻居将冷气机的防护罩去掉,噪音就很小,而夏天热天也没有几天,所以不伤和气。2 _" L: s2 A8 ^3 c  e9 V8 E
世界不是你一个人的,即使是毛公这样的政治家,有杀子之仇恨的美国,都要建交,所以适当使用妥协,也是一种很好的途径。+ z  T; g9 ?/ }' D
当生活中没有那么多纷争时,人生病的机会就少。
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:56 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
本帖最后由 JoyceAccSG 于 2013-3-16 22:02 编辑 + i6 o+ R/ k: m' b; X
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19
! z) ]; R) \" @你还是没有理解我的话.& m* f$ ?% m4 J/ d8 _8 Z3 l
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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# n# {( {8 X9 v8 X2 kThese are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,
, E% ^  I! h! u# q# P$ B" q- b9 vbecause of I never become a contractor, let me know about contractor knowledge please
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8 }) z6 l7 r1 x' Z5 l) fDental Benefits Summary:. Y/ q4 v4 s- [, Q3 m& d% m$ P) t2 m
Benefit Type         Payable At
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( s- Q5 w, m. X1 [Routine               
$ R% S6 w4 I5 p6 ]        Basic                 100%
+ {! C$ o( u$ k, p! x; P4 L5 r        Endodontics                 100%
" z  x& `: L5 ]        Periodontics                 100%
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        Global Medical Assistance         Covered
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asked and deleted.
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-16 15:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-16 15:56
7 u" c. j3 O  L/ c1 e8 m& e8 CThese are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,, n- k3 K; f- w% f2 S  J; t% U+ W
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还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.7 V: g+ T: z5 Z0 v* }4 [! r$ e* K
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好好享受这些福利啊.如果觉得合适和足够的话,就别再换了,公司给这么好这么多的福利,也是为了能留住人才啊.0 b! `3 R, d' f2 _6 k
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至于Contractor的细节,我也不想多说,其实也没什么好说,你列出来得所有福利,一项都没有,就简简单单的,每小时是多少钱就多少钱.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:10 | 显示全部楼层
中国人口是13亿,而加拿大是3千万,这种差异,使得在加拿大,有几十人的公司,就是中型公司了;有几个工程师的团队,就可以服务一个中型公司。这是在优势上,不能用中国的标准来衡量加拿大的标准。
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- O! c8 b2 t. ]6 x所以,在这里,如果一家中有两个或以上的同一类别的developers, 就有可以形成一定的气候,可以外接一些简单的程序开发项目;如果再联系另一家,就可以做更大一些的项目。而contractor是向这个方向努力的最简便起步途径,这种contractor就是一种'自雇‘性质的管理。! }& g2 g9 `) a" V% r+ c% o
成功是经验、管理与技能的三重积累。人家有这种条件,不但有两个或以上的程序员,而且朋友圈中也有许多程序员,从而可能产生能量聚合,这就当然向这个方向努力。
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鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:53 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-16 16:20 & z0 ?: C" j3 _3 q; i6 q: Y! S' z
谢谢你啊.2 S  V( @3 |) V) X. P/ H

0 {) J2 Q! s. R" \& ]8 `& ~$ U1 a: u还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.
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I will, thanks!
: @) }1 J# F3 U5 ^9 pI was a small engineer in china, same as me in china, too many ,too many! I never did team leader, never8 Y" i$ `$ e' j
management.
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