I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache$ t- R$ ?& i6 J% H$ ?' P% \
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Calm down everyone please." h7 _# U0 g% C: s
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不存在 can mean two different things:" g8 Y% x0 \/ z8 |& {
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. 4 U+ K3 M, z: \5 @. ]: i' G2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 # O' P* M3 Y" P6 J H* w; j" _3 W4 y$ l" C5 L
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist - t0 \7 S/ k- _/ O3 M" t: A( _2 S& j7 L6 h4 P5 D( ~3 Z2 ` G6 f
[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:29 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表* U7 J! Q! f% o' c, H
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache - N, z$ e+ j2 b; F& }+ C; l1 g$ w5 j5 Q
Calm down everyone please.& m# X; ^3 H- D$ T% K$ @8 Q
, f" E' n& x p8 H5 ~不存在 can mean two different things: 2 T+ r1 @5 _- E6 @) R" L, {) x% E" S% @1 I- y
1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc./ b6 p8 ?: P) o: L3 @8 f9 g. Z/ r
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 1 F/ ]( e5 |; L9 U$ F : c, q. Y% J- A( ?, tI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
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4 r6 b, s' v; U- V: q! ?/ G Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way? + s& O' U6 i3 I6 `If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 dora 于 2006-6-8 10:05 发表 * I& D/ \# }( D% y! u7 I , q, {9 }* A$ J% {! E1 E, S ( M) o' G& ?2 |; F. s" e; H- ^9 N都是我的错, 昨天我忘了提醒版主同时删掉88; 但是今天早晨我已经发帖要求了.
原帖由 balubalu 于 2006-6-8 09:01 发表 & O+ i6 u' l. ` }. j , ?$ B2 k n$ T& ]2 l) ?; y6 e( t v8 |9 m e0 r 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不 ...
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! . w7 n" ~ c. C 4 T P* W- Z2 x" y6 F7 v vAt least dora meant that I am pretty sure.6 F' i" s# G* C% p
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[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:57 编辑 ]
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) % w! |% A0 S2 ]+ k' |' m2 j6 j* y2 ]2 N, d* G# N$ D
Maybe we should stop argument. & H- B: E0 }" R7 r! W2 k9 V# ]$ j8 K: I
My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion 1 D7 M. \* \0 V 7 c( K* p* m: N' s/ \1 n2 h[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]