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请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

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发表于 2011-10-3 10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗?从老云的帖子里面看时这样的,但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢?: v& O! t1 @2 l3 V  _
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另外,有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么?肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧?
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google上找了半天无解,所以上来请教。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:06 | 显示全部楼层
I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.' j/ Y8 Q, }7 X6 ^' e! f
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Ha Ling Peak
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2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta
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) M- z- u: A0 O7 ~2 k                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                               
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; h) S' K+ e0 |/ d0 _                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; 4 \! B' m) w- ^8 t, u
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Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates
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                                                                                                Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore
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- Q5 s! w7 ^" M- q                                                                        Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=].
7 g% n% I4 s4 x, s! O  \( iThis mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year.$ D7 d2 [, ?1 S5 [  S& d8 h. w/ ~! x

0 s9 }( j# i9 g3 S7 {/ L( h2 XHowever this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10.4 ?* R$ e0 R0 `

# E  D8 L! P0 n1 G% E8 qBoth stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be?# _  v% R% W5 F$ R$ b; \
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[url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                                6 W6 A3 u, {& _# V6 R% F0 ^5 O
Scrambling Routes                                       
An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2011-10-3 10:14 编辑 ' `( u& R4 F6 [
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谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
It is said to be the best trail in Canada.
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kingsnake 于 2011-10-3 11:32 编辑 " _1 F) q( T: d$ G5 Z7 @
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這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。- t& Y4 w5 S' U# h
之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
2 U& N9 U; n6 E. M) q之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.- \/ N0 Y* ?; B1 J- d- C  T9 L
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29
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4 M# R7 o/ x" _除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外,还有其他来源吗?& c+ a# X% [' }5 q; P+ [* p
那么,Ha ling 姓林名海?
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6 z" a* N( f5 k; S. Z另外广东话把lin读成ling,hai读成ha?' |4 a6 c; b* R  L  N9 _

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发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 放风儿 于 2011-10-3 11:42 编辑 ( P: B1 e0 W  ]& A! z: `
谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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  o' R/ @- H9 n+ U9 I) \实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak,但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi,所以知道此山不算难。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
凌海吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。( P0 S3 R$ |0 h2 V: M* k
放风儿 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39
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入门级更好了,
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-10-3 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!, p7 B7 R) V, w9 T
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他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。) ^; ^9 G, k" ^: X
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Ha Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的,还有海莲峰的,这就差得比较远。我不会广东话,所以只好猜测这个Ha,其实是姓“夏”,Ling,可能就是“岭”,或者“灵”“陵”“翎”,这个就无从判断了。
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如果一定要翻,我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”,听着比较顺口。5 P6 h2 H2 Z8 l  M

/ U. b6 R+ G0 m/ \2 R0 |: y* ?你这个问题,或者马健威会有标准答案吧!呵呵。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-4 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!, y; c* K/ \$ X" |( F8 z

6 L3 w  N" M: L( S+ j他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。
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1 @' C# `# T* F9 K5 |9 f7 [Ha Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...+ _; H1 l1 e/ ?) a7 h9 ?
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22

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謝謝,有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了,只是好奇而已。# H) i$ \" O- T( b9 ?* q
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在找到真名之前,先叫他夏靈吧。
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