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Underwater Sales/Listings
9 w) n$ c1 [0 p: s" Q* D7 ZI thought of starting a money loser thread of properties we know where people are going to lose money on a sale -- just so we can gauge some desperation here. We can then quantify the belief which some have that: "People won't sell if they are losing money. They will just hang on and ride it out". But these are challenging times. Of course that theory would more easily hold true for investors if the thing were cashflow positive to begin with (incl vacancies, etc). Unfortunately, bleeding $500-600/mo on a downtown 1 br with 25% down is not cool nowadays.. L! k" J1 A5 L3 E$ g
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This will kind of like that flippersintrouble.blogspot.com, but for Vancouver, and of course in thread form here.
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1) I know 1801 in the Ritz (1211 Melville) is one.$ A. ^2 M# J6 ?! E- f
Original purchase was $469,900. + GST, PTT, commission, etc -- means a break even cost of $520k or so (+ Interest).7 S% R7 L5 Z8 h. H7 d. f Y
Asking price is $499k., Y9 m5 E# B% c, j- S7 y( a
724sq ft with semi-decent view, air conditioned, etc. Owner is in Beverly Hills
* y! _& v2 r; j( w$ S/ hLoss if sold at asking price = $20k+
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! m+ h' c% x) p+ g) J6 b2) 2002 - 909 Mainland (Yaletown Park)
0 B8 h0 ?4 U; l* c/ E8 lPurchased $397k.
# n' m; ^8 p0 t5 J2 p/ aAdjusted Cost (PTT, Commission, legals) = $420k7 T: m2 s0 O( A9 _5 O
Sold $338k
3 `0 D% T0 h! v! a0 o6 ALoss $82k
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8 I8 z. \4 O" m. ?) Q#607 - 1408 Strathmore Mews (West One): O1 I( J+ C1 v6 x0 y. [$ X2 T2 i* O
July 2008 - purchased for $850,000+ I3 ^) H5 I+ j/ z& w# n
Nov 2008 - listed for $749,000
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Unrealized loss of $101,000 plus taxes, fees, commission, etc.
1 q( ?0 D) C' @. tOuch... somebody overpaid!; o1 R. d# x5 j" ~ U
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" z7 j5 H. {9 y' ~July 2008 - purchased for $850,000 x6 `0 I) N( ?8 k8 c/ G0 x, [0 c
Nov 2008 - listed for $749,0007 i6 o6 x* V8 R l8 O. i% b% E
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Unrealized loss of $101,000 plus taxes, fees, commission, etc.) |0 @3 i( H- d
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@2 A; l5 S: H8 oAssesesed is 692k on that. With a lot of stuff going below assessed, that guy could be in a lot of pain
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#1107 - 638 Beach Cr (Icon) v$ n# I/ h- u- u
June 2008 - sold for $829,000
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' z# m! a5 g+ _+ t# bUnrealized loss of $30,000 plus taxes, fees, legals, commission, etc.; u* q6 F" S/ e( s H# r; d9 {
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+ x1 Q0 K# r9 @" Q0 h U( U6) I know 1801 in the Ritz (1211 Melville) is one.8 `/ @ U! z& b' P$ ^! U
Original purchase was $469,900. + GST, PTT, commission, etc -- means a break even cost of $520k or so (+ Interest).* n" F6 o# N, b) D* s
Asking price is $499k.
5 |3 s& K" ~2 M- v! r. G# G8 ]7 e724sq ft with semi-decent view, air conditioned, etc. Owner is in Beverly Hills3 V' v" z) [. L+ ~! ^) b
Loss if sold at asking price = $20k+
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1801 in the Ritz (1211 Melville) 9 u$ }, m; x' q8 q' `
724sq ft with semi-decent view, air conditioned, etc. % d( {/ m+ c* B% N. X
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) O& B. j: H3 F' RPurchased for $690k April 20069 Z* F1 n8 A9 T3 F4 H' p
Asking $699,900 for the assignment.
+ h5 a$ D: ~4 s* p- HEven if they get their asking price, after commission and assignment fee they will be about $25k underwater.... from 2006 prices.
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573 St Giles Rd (Glenmore, West Vancouver).
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Purchased 1.55M September 1, 2007.
$ c3 {- t% {! D9 \# b5 hLoss 265k+ (ptt + commission alone on that house is 65k+); J# `6 O# e5 @' Q
Last edited by gse36 on Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
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: J9 h7 q* i" N; K! e0 N4 E9 Z; v$290k sold
$ l5 K; i0 m+ l! F ~1 |( U$289.9k sold May 10, 2007.
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102 - 633 Kinghorne Mews BB,
6 q# @+ w" X; Q* Z- g: |0 `Sold 1300k July 2007$ T7 N! V, [! F" A: {. E
Asking 1225k* }8 ]" I1 Y5 n* g
Loss of 100k+ (incl ptt and commission)
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$ T9 v9 r& F3 asold 225k Aug 2008
, g" ^( V, l5 O0 }! sAsking 224.9k& s2 E4 @# E1 l! M
Loss of 15k+ (incl ptt and commission) \! v/ b( @6 G
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" U& p4 s5 M' s4 F: A; z9611 Capella Drive, Richmond
; p0 } x4 Z/ p OSold 707500 Nov 20074 U r( p, A0 \7 V' x( B: B" K
Asking 6480000 C7 b8 U( U5 X5 `7 Q+ e
Loss of 85k+ (incl ptt and commission)
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3468 W 30th, Dunbar Vancouver% h X1 p8 j# w# ?# m
Sold 1.40M July 2007
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Loss of 160k+ (incl ptt and commission)9 Z! d% a4 i- H) y- V6 S0 _
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9284 University Crest, SFU+ N N) A& V) J/ h6 A
Sold 358k Sept 20076 v U& ^8 K. T) e
Asking 349k4 t7 v/ L4 s P3 a4 D2 [
Loss of 25k+ (incl ptt and commission)" _- `/ E7 F5 X3 u8 D
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2 c5 [+ z: ?: {' r4 K" v! r#110 750 W 12th Ave, Fairview
$ V, \6 a& A6 _, tSold 460k Feb 7, 2008
7 p8 X( s( F- M4 e2 C" h- X0 ^Asking 419k
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; u+ W& e4 j6 ^4 Q% oSold $565k Nov 2008, V2 M6 M. z9 H) P8 @
Purchased $650k Nov 2006
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# c5 @8 W4 I( |7 _! [1 ]8 u+ y' w301-3333 W 4th in Kits
$ W* |& G" L0 k4 C8 @4 J3 GSold $308k in Feb 2008
9 h7 T7 H( M7 ?0 `Sold $245k in Nov 20086 Z. P8 J% ?/ z2 L& u" a
- i* g* k% [8 [, q3 ULoss $65k+
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A lucky guy:
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$637k sold in March 30, 2007" r9 a6 u6 @' ]2 G. b
$630k sold in Dec 3, 2008.0 K/ x3 N' P0 D4 V2 ?
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301 - 1438 Richards St
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( \3 z6 {, i! g5 Z( F6 ySold $408k Dec 2008
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# X2 d* x/ c: s" m$ s! QBoth very short term owners. Flippers possibly.
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# h. R5 X* U6 c: k- FAnd of course, we can't forget about Flagship flipper guy.- ? n' j! W7 A* g, e' Z0 r
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/reo/936765992.html* Z. R% l; {3 N& v
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Pre-sale contract price: $798,000. W. M7 L7 v0 H( o6 ^
Deposit: $119,750$ \6 d. P8 J( }
Asking price for assignment: $15,000
9 \, g6 ?( a7 Z$ m. \; [Unrealized loss: $104,750/ T% A. w( T1 g/ N9 d
5 `) Z0 F" D0 m& S" P, ?9 `) X( jLook on seller's face when still no buyers show up: priceless- _6 m) s# @: d3 P# T7 s2 Z' C
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#1610 - 928 Beatty St.
: \! B; h4 X* c; R0 HPurchased $380k. (in October 2006) p+ I8 g, L6 k: X
Sold $363k; y& l! A6 G7 e
Loss $17k
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Sold below October 2006 price. Interestingly, this unit sold in May 2006 for $365,000. So one could argue that some sellers are willing to let units go for May 2006 prices. WOW.
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9 P. D9 @5 }" R& w. dSome posters on this forum speak of crystal balls... real estate in Vancouver is looking more like a time machine! How far back in time do you think we'll go?
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. L( r7 S4 h. @#607 - 1408 Strathmore Mews
' U4 w# H1 s9 VPurchased $850k. (in April 2008)
1 E8 N, ?! V3 O( ~ X$ `. HSold $720k
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0 X; Z/ l j" X# u+ {: S, j; RWOW... who was the poster that talks about Bears losing their money in the stock market. This guy did even better. If he had 10% down, he lost his entire down payment plus another $50K! Everybody loves leverage... when prices are going up. Now I see some uncomfortable swallowing from people that might not love leveraging the purchase of their assets/investments anymore.
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3 B: u* T6 G5 s% W很多没有扣除rental,否则还是赚的
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