肉麻怎么说啊？

OliveOil

原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表
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当然，但是我觉得从矫揉造作这个中文去找英文，pose还是很妥当的。
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其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思，和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的，只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见？

I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
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三思

先感谢一下同学们，我稍后再来仔细学习

竹帘儿

原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
The following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
4 r/ l1 B! ?' g) @) |& m( q1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  
# @. @* h2 M' C0 E2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

& s8 I' _1 O. Q8 Fhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones.

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竹帘儿

原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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1 H0 @( l% }1 G; vI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
what about clichéd ...

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cliché really means overused, predictable, 陈词滥调, 了无新意.  for example, in chinese shows, to imply that a woman is pregnant , she will always suddenly rush into the washroom and start to vomit, that's a cliche scene. so cliche!
8 w. I* r; {9 c4 nbut not rouma at all.
so far I think "cheesy" is really THE word, as per the slang dic.

寒江雪

原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表


2 @- Z/ s( u$ J5 |9 c! Y4 N$ Bhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...

Thanks. I will check it later on.

醉酒当歌

Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表


have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...

三思

原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表
impudence  厚颜无耻   可以吗？

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6 _# ~) |, S. ^# p7 n- A虽然和肉麻关系不大，很喜欢这个词！厚颜无耻！这么对应一下：
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bold faced 不要脸的！
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三思

原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表


I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
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) O& X1 ?% u4 O6 e" c, W对，我的总结是：cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广，但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy
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三思

原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...

  {8 f9 p. l- I3 b$ \# `文化不同语言的应用不同，这个原理是对的，比如哥儿们，美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎，因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势

三思

原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
) D9 T: F" r/ YThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  
2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

请参见20搂，我开始也是查的正统字典，觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典：http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy

tyrochangs

看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思，是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻，不过字典查不到，只有icky，请各位高人看看

眉心眉飞

原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
& b6 q7 G" J# c/ q* e* W- v3 N0 ^看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思，是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻，不过字典查不到，只有icky，请各位高人看看

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Mushy

眉心眉飞

另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy

形容肉麻的情书情话之类.

三思

原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
, A3 `+ {. C) P: a5 O& x看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思，是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻，不过字典查不到，只有icky，请各位高人看看

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严重感谢！我查了一下，icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近！我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用，以求加强记忆！再次感谢！

三思

原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy

" u& B* w# {. B6 d. b% |# u$ T形容肉麻的情书情话之类.

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九月

原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表

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这个对，我女儿说的。

三思

原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表
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这个对，我女儿说的。

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如花

mushy
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九月

原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表
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豆腐，烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女，cheesy是什么意思？有啥区别呢？谢谢！

她倒时跟我说了，但我没听懂，说是有点FAKE的意思，比如有人来拍新闻，大家都假装，假装喊口号，那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人，以他名字命名了一个长跑，电视台来拍，大家就都喊什么口号，好像是那个人的名字？给人感觉很FAKE，叫CHEESY.
她说，肉麻是和LOVE有关的，MUSHY.
" H% E# q: s0 c) P" r. X如果你还不明白的话，我让她来回这个帖子。

意难平

Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.

三思

原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表

她倒时跟我说了，但我没听懂，说是有点FAKE的意思，比如有人来拍新闻，大家都假装，假装喊口号，那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人，以他名字命名了一个长跑，电视台来拍，大家就都喊什么口号 ...

严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊！可惜俺的太小了！

我从这个帖子学习后，又有这么个想法：肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的，如果是爱人间的肉麻，是mushy, 如果是表演过度，作假的肉麻，是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗？

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三思

原帖由 意难平 于 2008-1-15 14:16 发表
' R2 z$ `/ w. ?: r/ v9 M1 wThought I'd throw in my 2 cents!
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; i# H& ^/ p. u, [cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...

thank you so much! I wonder how cheesy was evoluted into rouma

jmtshjx

原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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I agree with this one.
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jmtshjx

原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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( _9 H% X2 L$ @某大官考查回归前的香港, 被问及如何看待治安和黑社会时, 说了一句经典的话: 黑社会也有爱国的! 从此被广泛引申为: 鸡也有爱国的....等等等等.
% y( B# j! I( |! v) x7 }5 q港传媒便有曰: 今后谁敢在公开场合说自己爱国的, 都应该被捉起来, 真正罪名是"肉麻"

瓦窑

原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表
wow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...

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三思

原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表


I agree with this one.
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One joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....
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SO 肉麻== I thank my government

鹈鹕灌顶！这太绝了！！！

珠圆玉润

哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。