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肉麻怎么说啊?

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发表于 2008-1-11 07:35 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表 : ?! G4 m+ w2 b6 p! K! j
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当然,但是我觉得从矫揉造作这个中文去找英文,pose还是很妥当的。7 |# d1 R2 b6 I( x" d1 u" X4 H
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其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思,和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的,只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见?
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" q1 Y! L( y3 M1 N& ?) pI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
1 x. Z' O1 x- n! X& m$ {( T/ cwhat about clichéd or hackneyed, are they closer? They both mean something by "overuse" but the end results still seem to difer from when I use 肉麻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-11 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
先感谢一下同学们,我稍后再来仔细学习
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:40 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表   j' l% y# N# C! Y
The following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
3 C) X9 u7 n8 c( {5 t9 Z1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  , W4 h# i: X# m9 t! b( X! u
2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...
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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones.
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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; u5 }9 }: X' D, P8 o* V7 t% lI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:$ ]: V  u3 v" y) |
what about clichéd ...

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so far I think "cheesy" is really THE word, as per the slang dic.
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发表于 2008-1-11 18:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 5 C( \" O- D$ `( ]# T" y8 W- Z( `

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- c" V3 x/ {0 c) r$ K, F% yhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...

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发表于 2008-1-11 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.: s. h/ X) K0 o! r. O; }8 L/ X
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表
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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:25 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表
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虽然和肉麻关系不大,很喜欢这个词!厚颜无耻!这么对应一下:
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寻求“臭不要脸”的英文ing..
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:27 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:# x9 T& x, Q7 D2 S5 d: X9 X: |
what about clichéd ...
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对,我的总结是:cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广,但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy% L0 D) X+ u; Q1 b# }2 c4 Z

4 _: p9 R3 v5 n5 p这个cliched,我就遵循下面竹帘这个french frog的说法了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表
; [" J" p6 C% l+ lSlang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...

* @* ^/ ^8 s% ]  l文化不同语言的应用不同,这个原理是对的,比如哥儿们,美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎,因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
' d% [8 ~$ g) A+ n+ \3 x9 NThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :% l& C, j( h  f
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  
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# G8 j2 \. t( K( A5 O3 \请参见20搂,我开始也是查的正统字典,觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy
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发表于 2008-1-13 23:48 | 显示全部楼层
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:08 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
( M$ V% r$ V/ f/ i! C+ @( K- T2 S3 `看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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Mushy
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:12 | 显示全部楼层
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另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy
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形容肉麻的情书情话之类.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表 , V; Q) E% F2 U3 N
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看

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3 M3 x& h, g3 n严重感谢!我查了一下,icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近!我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用,以求加强记忆!再次感谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:29 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
9 d; A5 }; G" E* X3 b另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy7 ^0 g% Z+ i; A

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8 F( d# z% x9 s/ t4 g4 jschmaltzy !太高级了这词,没见过地说!仔细钻研ing
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发表于 2008-1-15 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表 3 e: w$ {9 q$ r2 m, r$ ~7 f6 ?

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表
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这个对,我女儿说的。
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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发表于 2008-1-15 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
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overly romantic and sentimental
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号,好像是那个人的名字?给人感觉很FAKE,叫CHEESY.
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如果你还不明白的话,我让她来回这个帖子。
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!% R8 W, h7 l, w  D+ ^
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 17:26 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表 2 I( V0 k! J, z* M  [8 P' D

" C' O, }& F: n) a她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号 ...

9 V3 L& h, `9 O$ x% P严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊!可惜俺的太小了!
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* ?- f6 k. D. W! e我从这个帖子学习后,又有这么个想法:肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的,如果是爱人间的肉麻,是mushy, 如果是表演过度,作假的肉麻,是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗?
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外甥女说的是Terry Fox, 是所谓的加拿大民族英雄。
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原帖由 意难平 于 2008-1-15 14:16 发表 7 y' Z) D# }# ]2 o! P2 E" p' A$ {
Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!
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/ N+ E$ G: t) u4 Dcheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...

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发表于 2008-1-16 16:48 | 显示全部楼层

I thank my government

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肉麻== I thank my government
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7 W% X! W. I; S; yI agree with this one.
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One joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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肉麻== I thank my government
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某大官考查回归前的香港, 被问及如何看待治安和黑社会时, 说了一句经典的话: 黑社会也有爱国的! 从此被广泛引申为: 鸡也有爱国的....等等等等.
. @# ]8 @$ R0 Y9 w0 ]港传媒便有曰: 今后谁敢在公开场合说自己爱国的, 都应该被捉起来, 真正罪名是"肉麻"
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原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表 - h- Q& P9 N; g( A
wow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...
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what a bi*ch! like you have slept with every married american man and know exactly what they think about their wives.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-17 09:19 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表
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One joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....
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SO 肉麻== I thank my government
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鹈鹕灌顶!这太绝了!!!
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发表于 2011-4-27 03:21 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。
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