Is there a house bubble in Edmonton?

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How to figure a home's fundamental value
" y! O7 F7 I0 B6 u7 `# r% rLeamer says he can tell because homes, just like stocks, have a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) that he believes determines their fundamental value. The “earnings” part of the ratio consists of the annual rent the house could command. Homebuyers can compare current P/Es with historical levels, Leamer says, to get some idea of whether houses in their cities are becoming overvalued.

Not everyone buys the idea that P/Es dictate value. But investors who completely ignore P/Es do so at their peril, as many have learned in recent years. Leamer, who heads the prestigious Anderson Forecast at the University of California in Los Angeles, points out that the P/E for the Standard & Poor’s 500, a key stock benchmark, was nearly double its previous historical high when the stock market bubble burst in 2000. When home P/Es peaked in California, Boston, Dallas and other markets in the mid-1980s, devastating real estate recessions followed.
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Leamer didn’t invent the concept of P/Es for homes. But his willingness to proclaim bubbles in several of the nation’s hottest markets has brought him lots of attention recently.

To calculate P/Es for entire cities, Leamer divided the median home price in each by the annual rent for a two-bedroom unit in each city -- and looked at P/Es each year since 1988. Here’s what he found:
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) q- s2 U) I* ?0 G& Z+ {In Boston, the residential real estate market’s P/E recently topped 30 -- compared with just under 20 in 1988.
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$ K) J0 @; ^! R. T% B1 @2 ISan Francisco’s previous peak of 25.6 in 1989 has been eclipsed, with the P/E currently at just over 27.
# {* r. D, \) s- W* tSan Diego’s current P/E is nearly 30, compared with a 1989 high of 23.4.
) H$ z. q- u2 K2 ZNew York, by contrast, is actually well below previous peaks. The area’s current 22.5 P/E is above its recent nadir of 17.6 in 1993, but down from 28.6 in 1988.
4 X6 D# K; R1 m1 q/ mYou don’t have to know exact P/Es, however, to spot signs of trouble, Leamer says. Any time there’s a disconnect between prices and the underlying value of homes, as measured by their market rents, there’s the potential for a bubble.
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- ~9 v% X* O+ Q1 M* n* t& j7 Q2 lIf home prices are rising much faster than rents, as is true in Los Angeles, that’s a strong indication a bubble is forming.
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% A6 D5 e" H/ o+ x" f2 `! m1 fIf home prices are rising while average rents are falling -- which is the situation in San Francisco -- the bubble is pretty much unmistakable.

Home P/E ratios for 9 metro areas
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Boston  20.5 30.2
San Diego  22.8 29.7
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" ?2 u' _( l$ v$ ^Los Angeles  21.3 25.6
Seattle  20.4 25
5 A: R4 Z% J8 R% l6 C$ g9 n' m( y2 ^! xDenver  17.7 23.7
New York  21.2 22.5
; i8 x. S6 O% W' Z! w) }7 CChicago  17.2 20.8
5 ~1 c! l2 G+ K+ c& }Washington, D.C.  17.1 20.4
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3 O" j4 n& @( AIt's difficult to compare P/Es from one city with those from another. P/Es in Atlantic City, N.J., have wavered between 17.3 and 11.6 since 1988; in San Diego, P/Es have not dropped below 20. But you can look on the P/E as a measure of risk -- that is, the higher the P/E is above its average level, the greater the risk, no matter where you live.

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From: http://moneycentral.msn.com/cont ... ingguide/P37631.asp

CANDYMAN

Who has the P/E for Edmonton for the last 20 years, please post it here.
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it would be a good reference.
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醉酒当歌

20% buble at least. And it can take 3-5 years to digest the bubble if not burst.

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