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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞& z: K) }& k( d& p
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
, Z/ i0 V/ s8 t6 P( F, a! @# @0 v" yClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
. I3 Z8 ^: ?. f! Y8 [. J(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
, e: i$ d. `) P- G0 B& `1 {& V. ?7 d葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:# l) _# \; U) @& Y1 \
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
9 X0 n6 t/ W( w% h" S% K1 c: o她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:3 c5 H& _) V) n* P

/ G: t8 K& [1 n1 {Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
$ N( I4 ?, }- a* Q% F4 T" Z" HShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,% b4 J7 f# m( |' `1 U8 [/ F9 D( u
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,  W& }) C7 l; |/ @
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.. c( v  f0 q: L# S' N0 k( p
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
. B( d6 L( {, {How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
9 g5 Q- w4 \( R5 {if we demand He leave us alone?"
6 O" p: J2 ^7 c7 H, H/ f『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;9 Q) Y- J8 W4 H1 F$ e) K
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,8 y- y4 R# n, e+ C1 M
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
+ X7 m5 ]7 ]6 R$ O% z1 L2 U上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
7 Z$ X- h# r4 c# x4 t, y* t' a. {我們既然強令祂遠離我們,; V$ N0 P1 k; Y/ N& R
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』  n: n2 Z4 u( c' [. Z+ K$ }  e/ O
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.( n9 ~$ [- @* X8 {% r- n# h6 b
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
5 \. v9 v5 B( Bher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
6 v& T# Q! u& `schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in. A( c- }$ s8 o, Y! a
school...+ p3 b( O( W) b8 n: Q/ q+ g
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
7 ^; a/ N, P2 j! F* z! Q/ _# ]and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
+ I) c, d* ^; R1 R; e% i* B看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
- P+ T/ a* \  X& j0 {( E我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士3 ?$ R: o5 J/ Z/ `6 |" n, Z
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
/ X$ ^$ J. S4 M0 P. I2 P. ]. Z: {  L* \0 L最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
" q4 a; B2 \4 {" f+ r( u3 }要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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. A% h, b. e+ z+ ^( G3 h7 sThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
' S. i3 M- q# ~when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
* w2 d* E! z* ^4 Uand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
9 }) E1 r. O, C  B4 _% }. Usuicide)
1 u- Q' I4 t( P+ `3 \( UWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
% n" P6 t) O6 V# F/ o0 Z/ p然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
8 {8 t/ X  c  P5 O( o我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
6 i* D) l5 h. R9 @/ h  o以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊) r4 I- v8 I; i) f
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our0 v9 P" v- u) c
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member3 c1 |2 r* I- H& D2 ^' R% S
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave, w; c  ^! k0 Z, c" }
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
$ z9 u# Z1 X" I! n3 Kand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
$ Y+ y6 G9 V" N& h/ f/ S& y& ~between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,  z$ v" `7 P$ L7 e0 o. J0 Y! K- M  N
etc.). And we said OK.
" }. n. j+ r# ]8 x- o1 M( \3 d然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,( @( U6 m* i8 B
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,3 g5 ^7 O4 N  f+ O9 }% l
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
% O9 e. s0 S. W* L7 k更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),# C  U+ x9 L: Q4 o0 r
而大家同意了。6 R8 |, s$ p4 w8 Y% U& Q& o- \
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
8 x2 M& z+ ]5 g6 ^. jand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.0 t' a- M8 x% U
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys! i+ p  b, o( V( n
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
6 P4 K! Z( V9 d4 ^2 c6 R6 lthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,
" S( Y1 R; s0 T7 vand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we  F4 H- I5 ?: _+ k
said OK.
( p3 c/ l: @4 ?5 g然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
! q5 [. t1 n# l# ~/ K甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
+ s& F4 I5 G- t0 b5 p" R, B然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,! A) z0 T9 Q7 F# S. A& I% [" b
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
! M) f/ S0 A3 _, \% p好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
) i! P4 F+ \8 g* X* U4 M9 O( U8 p他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。6 u9 O2 e6 q: U# n6 `

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% ?5 u9 ^' l: OThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter: ^) v. y! C* F  p
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them," v% x) x% V( Z6 {# g0 X- I  x
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,  s5 }2 m9 t( b
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.4 E- G. {  P6 V/ }' `6 T8 e3 |- S
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,2 m1 ^+ M4 v+ [: B' U3 G2 A* R
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
8 }/ R$ R$ U, s) Z7 S. \任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
( X% |, y, n( i: f只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women, }5 e# j8 O/ J5 N1 V. y
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
' Q8 u# o3 t  ?" Lof the female body. And we said OK.
* e  A9 X. O  g然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
/ l" B+ U( N5 D8 `9 e6 p7 q- @稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。" D$ A9 B$ k8 D

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, v5 ~: l' i: x+ p' NAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and  I8 O8 d' K" Y9 F8 @5 W! o. g0 u. S
published pictures of nude children and then further again
1 f. Z" `5 K7 K) i1 U; X/ `/ aby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,- g9 K; V% @) D
they're entitled to free speech.( s8 h6 Y+ M4 R8 e' j) e2 b! d& z; {
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,% P8 S. w, t# D8 [! D
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,+ u$ D' E5 S5 N! M: f  a; W2 D
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies3 a! |* \4 V; K5 Z' \/ G
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music, S1 N5 C& n6 p/ b1 f4 k
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
- |) H7 b' r2 q: g* _And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
- ~2 }2 m) T9 P9 E: j9 |' @nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
. W/ U1 K- R3 X* r8 m7 g3 A9 u然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、% J: b  |/ B' x% _+ w$ j" K
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
6 S/ [2 m8 ]8 a/ F! G% O% {謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
5 U5 f: x1 M1 t6 Q" Y那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
& ~8 u5 h$ r+ o0 |4 t. Y1 p# hwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them5 p4 y/ g4 n' T0 j, \
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,% c4 @( `9 G. y& J9 P$ E
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
, j7 ?6 R6 |1 C1 ^+ b+ o# V' k! A) H  NI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
) D0 A* P; H1 u' p. _$ b如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?0 {+ I4 Z' T1 R) f; B! A. I2 B+ s
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
7 b7 k  b) K  t+ @/ M( I. x! _+ A6 j為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?( }2 a, @# G/ Z2 w) d) J1 F0 \
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
  H$ V0 U) P% \6 K5 X  u& o我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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5 U0 \2 N& }1 hFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
" j/ @# P) {3 n& ^" Z0 n4 xwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers$ u, L9 Q; v' E- V$ A/ G- a
say, but question what the Bible says.( H: Y2 e$ b- c5 ~3 I2 F* a
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。# z5 O6 t$ i" d+ V) A- U3 O, Y
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
3 E/ L8 b6 ?+ z( p9 e8 }- Kwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
* u* }$ ~7 B! j/ w& k5 r* {+ A( ~people think twice about sharing.8 G! l7 w+ Q4 k/ T% V& k. i' y7 ]
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
( g& z$ U6 D& n/ p( {* Q9 s+ J但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,' K7 N! P# U+ G' r
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。  N  l% @8 V' A' j. W
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* n4 A1 n% L( W. |6 kFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
3 J+ ~- `0 L! |; a. R  u4 r2 _through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed% E' }/ s3 A! z) p  R
in the school and workplace.
5 A$ q- f8 I. [實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
6 z  c( K* J" B2 H. Q. \6 Q9 @8 b透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;% C/ H. h' i' ^9 a+ L* i( R4 ?7 M% y
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?( ?6 _4 ^9 w! i/ d+ T+ ]
你笑了嗎?7 C  \7 Q- i6 J2 _3 b2 e4 N
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
( W' h$ d1 ~6 p: u, Gto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
8 d. S4 J% c# ^4 |* Uor what they WILL think of you for sending it.
3 W9 g8 }' n5 yFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
* F, R( L& L! b* Q& i: |  Vthan what God thinks of us.
8 w  z& t% m# S# T% `好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
1 A8 z, E9 y, Z因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
0 I$ j5 I' z3 ^) G0 x/ M或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。* B: D; S5 Q9 W5 w/ n
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
) l/ @3 M0 z4 r/ Q# E而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...4 j5 d: e- G6 v  ?
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
2 g' G5 Q4 t5 K3 h0 y- psit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!% n# c% V9 W& Q7 x# p1 Y7 M( y
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話' [; H4 k' @3 t! U3 {5 x! F
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
* W% H( e) c3 e1 I7 D; Q8 ]* A但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
0 P/ B3 n9 W1 ]你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
' x4 \& T( `7 |5 F) a% l  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶7 O; U+ N8 K+ W9 h. q- v' G
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
* b& [0 \4 e2 d( ~0 Q% M# ?这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
大型搬家
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了( o) e- X; C. O- V" F

0 M0 m* f8 n$ H' Q' w9 B, P" W所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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