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请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

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发表于 2011-10-3 10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗?从老云的帖子里面看时这样的,但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢?4 \) u3 o+ z! ]  o5 z8 V$ H9 C: f

  M' z' T3 h5 h) H4 I% |0 `另外,有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么?肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧?
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8 D( J) k- Q# u4 G. qgoogle上找了半天无解,所以上来请教。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:06 | 显示全部楼层
I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.% W' U5 j5 C: ^- ^) N6 S# {. B6 C
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2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta! A8 G: d' c* d+ I- ?5 Z
                                                        Latitude 51; 03; 30 Longitude 115; 24; 00, Topo map 82O/03
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  i, z5 o3 l" W4 B0 L                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                0 E' e8 Q6 s: Y1 y
                                       
& X8 s! J7 _2 c+ R+ U& E4 y' @                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; 5 @0 t2 W# J3 E! i" T9 \% _7 W
                                       
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Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates' ^$ _# J- J7 C
                                                               
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                                                                                                Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore
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                                                                        Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=].
9 q# p1 L( L  W) E$ S$ v+ }  k5 ZThis mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year." X# M) f; M  y* P2 q1 x3 W' C
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However this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10.
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  P) A# w' x) P" u. CBoth stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be?6 L8 w5 M# t$ `( W" N/ k3 ?4 E
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[url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                               
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Scrambling Routes                                       
An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2011-10-3 10:14 编辑 ; ^2 e  m' S1 v- _. B  l

7 C, _5 n( {3 O2 D/ L7 v谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
It is said to be the best trail in Canada.
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kingsnake 于 2011-10-3 11:32 编辑 8 E# S$ N! {$ T% T+ `

: k. t9 U" L& O" E1 A7 Y- _! F這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。: f( O% |; g% x5 c0 C6 ]' G
之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
+ k: b, f3 H7 O3 N6 I之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.. m$ n6 \$ I6 n" \: c2 ~( n
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29
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除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外,还有其他来源吗?. ~& q3 E/ L0 j+ O
那么,Ha ling 姓林名海?$ s6 o( q* ~8 R8 K/ @; x7 X
中文翻译成叫林海峰,海林峰,哈灵峰?
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另外广东话把lin读成ling,hai读成ha?
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 放风儿 于 2011-10-3 11:42 编辑   ?2 y1 w  ]0 L& E9 F* }+ T' X9 I* g
谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。- Z1 c  h0 \! y! c
billzhao 发表于 2011-10-3 11:09

* G) A# K4 C( W$ g实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak,但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi,所以知道此山不算难。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
凌海吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。
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) W5 i/ f4 G0 U入门级更好了,
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-10-3 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!
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' a  Y: m+ K! o他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。
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Ha Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的,还有海莲峰的,这就差得比较远。我不会广东话,所以只好猜测这个Ha,其实是姓“夏”,Ling,可能就是“岭”,或者“灵”“陵”“翎”,这个就无从判断了。& p& ~; ~, G, o5 i! _

7 ]  n9 T8 Q4 b) L, q如果一定要翻,我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”,听着比较顺口。
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你这个问题,或者马健威会有标准答案吧!呵呵。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-4 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!
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他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。0 J- B5 p7 Z6 \+ K/ t) {% l
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Ha Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...
/ f: ?0 z3 H: y云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22
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謝謝,有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了,只是好奇而已。$ G8 [& N6 K) e/ w( g( Y' V' N
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在找到真名之前,先叫他夏靈吧。
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