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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics./ G% g& ?/ C# D) H' T! Z, U
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 8 F7 t& J) v, `
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 2 G& l' `9 V& F: G0 g0 s

" W6 L2 ?) t+ ~Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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) Z5 A/ a7 o* q5 g! x% n5 i# rTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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9 ~) {  o/ T; K& CMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ' d5 I) h. |, I, ?2 Y

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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' d8 B4 \5 c2 h0 BTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,1 `% @" }5 ?* U3 ^/ ?

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
# D  n8 ^; }9 l% w. |" X4 [ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 8 @# f) Z4 ]4 ]/ i; p9 s: F" v
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
# U9 t1 O. b; p& Q/ I( u1 CWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to3 F) K) z0 i7 h
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ k* T, S$ }0 X
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
* I8 h4 t& T. H8 s# qfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
4 A' p! y4 ^+ M; C; n' k3 xthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and; p5 [5 d* Z7 E0 }1 w! H8 {9 ?9 ^
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined* A/ F0 B$ I: I- C! T$ o/ Z; H
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year% c0 s- I. x/ i) u
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this: _1 L2 Y5 I+ Z* ?8 n% i  l
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,5 a& I- ?0 Z4 p9 B8 R7 m6 W) S
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.# \, u% \3 b# q. a% K, m3 n4 }. ]
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s! V; o7 `$ [: ~6 {
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%1 w; W5 S0 z' h1 L$ {
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta: w, b) W! k+ o; i& `
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new9 v6 H# v& |# ^7 l( K' q# |5 H
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals& ]0 N$ R! C( s3 S% @- C
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging6 k- S, }3 ]9 C8 |, j0 b3 f
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories& f* ]4 e" S. T& R. J" s
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
+ A+ Y, K' u" \1 gbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in5 ]& g; e; C; @# [6 Z9 n
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in" n' E# l, N! ?) v$ @6 P
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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4 x7 t7 Z8 @# d1 O2 Y) f% ^2 Mrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
' B$ B1 C/ c; N9 iresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.% U# F+ ^$ ]2 U
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s/ @, `3 d, }; ]: X, p8 q! e
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.  a6 G& N2 R+ [- l7 g
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners) y3 f4 C5 u9 F: l  r9 H/ E; y
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( a3 F! l& r3 U
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average9 g7 A/ T3 N& w  a7 D: J5 `
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,$ W) k$ T8 s6 x& a1 ~
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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/ h! g( v8 u' g' v" i7 M6 o[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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