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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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# l0 `' G- z/ S2 B. `The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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( v: ^$ c/ p6 e* ?3 V2 K7 X  ^"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ( @) O/ m) W5 \- V& \/ P
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.9 a9 i( `6 s* r0 u3 D1 [6 \4 g

% s9 G/ O: u& c! j% V: q" ~5 nTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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4 O6 k' o% I2 G  M- e"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. , K4 }' x0 \4 a9 [8 t4 l" y% T) n

) i/ D( ^5 T1 X- @TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.9 v% T) X/ T4 N- Y7 B
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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6 J* S( w* c; U  G8 {TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
% \, {0 M  C+ V$ ]$ I 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。1 s$ m7 v; `7 `
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
0 |8 D2 L9 S3 D: i0 f1 \跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

% ?9 [/ E2 {* ]0 f5 U+ |. L很多人都回学校深造去了
6 U8 t( v7 d# P, ?  W- F. H; ~2 M  S" v嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta$ i. Z& f4 E% Q2 Z/ _( s  y
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
6 Z4 n6 W$ `$ ]! Y* e/ c+ C/ S0 Bboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
% ?9 n) X  X( J( _/ [are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
3 y, ^$ m- k4 d* E4 w0 R. _+ Yfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
, u: ?+ ]  G( D& I8 Hthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and: E& P/ d; Y' c" L: T
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous' C$ L& G. p1 ?( d1 W* |
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year4 ]6 p# U' D7 C  h- I9 Q
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around1 E1 f; I) ]  X0 }, r" g6 L9 R) x/ k
30,000 new households will form in the province during; v5 p! D: f5 l$ q/ x
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.: p+ ~& e! r0 r3 W. V
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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, k( o0 j2 A+ p6 Vduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
& s& X" l2 z3 R" Wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
! ~( {) }' S8 N8 O: A! n1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
  i) w9 s5 D! C* c0 x% n4 Qsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive! n  O- @  }# X4 B
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
% ~. s, B: ~( j9 ltwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
6 n2 r1 B' g  n' t2 Aunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747$ T, P+ l: T2 P, v) D
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest: Y/ y; r2 y& j
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the6 o; ?0 z% w. n5 l' ]
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
' ~) l( d! r! D; y, R6 Zmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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$ [5 E0 R, U' o0 Y' U- v3 Frapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.9 G) ?3 z2 D! f7 l" ]; H+ n" A& }
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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; I/ S8 \& T  V7 c+ U+ rAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan( ~& m9 w/ T- A4 o# g2 X
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
' k4 t' Z! \0 u/ k; r  rrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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9 Z, M" H$ n6 {; e* othough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
. ?8 h( G7 B6 n1 w+ W' aon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices/ ^4 _5 n& I" K
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,2 e7 z0 u  B( p) }) `
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%2 D# r) b, _& n3 @9 b
leg down over 2009.
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 U6 G- B8 H( R
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 7 ?+ H. b$ ~! _- A+ q; B
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子5 e0 x' [* h0 f# V) J

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